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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by brabel » 01 Aug 2018, 15:01

Flying Scout wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 14:34
Which significant capacity expansion for Brussels Airlines???
They mean expansion for Eurowings after taking over Air Berlin

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 01 Aug 2018, 15:50

brabel wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 15:01
Flying Scout wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 14:34
Which significant capacity expansion for Brussels Airlines???
They mean expansion for Eurowings after taking over Air Berlin
Don't forget the additional SN A330 and its two A340s flying for Eurowings
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Flying Scout » 01 Aug 2018, 16:18

@ Andre
The 2 A340's are flying on behalf of Eurowings, so no expansion for SN.
The A330 is a replacement for an old A330, so again no huge expansion for me.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 01 Aug 2018, 17:14

brabel wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 15:01
Flying Scout wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 14:34
Which significant capacity expansion for Brussels Airlines???
They mean expansion for Eurowings after taking over Air Berlin
Actually, with "Eurowings", Lufthansa's CFO referred to the Eurowings Group. De Tijd initially called them "the division with Eurowings and Brussels Airlines".

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by DannyVDB » 01 Aug 2018, 20:20

Of course SN expanded - please try to stick to figures and not to emotions - Thomas Cook integration meant +10% expansion ...

What do you expect?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Sai » 04 Aug 2018, 20:37

According to this article on Hln.be (in dutch);
185 passengers of Brussels Airlines are stuck for already two days on Tenerife.

Summary:
The flight was cancelled after the aircraft's tires were damaged during take-off by FOD. Today a new flight was planned but after several hours it became clear the repair would take more time and passengers would have to stay another night.
Passengers complain about lack of information and conditions.
Brussels Airlines regrets that the communication went so badly as they have no staff present and depend on the local handling agency.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 13 Aug 2018, 09:14

I have questions now that Brussels Airlines becomes eurowings.

What with the frequent flyer programme?

What in case of canceled flight, still rerouted on other airlines?

Will the customer handling will be of the same quality ?

I have heard stories that eurowings are struggeling with delays and cancelations? Correct?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 13 Aug 2018, 10:05

b.lufthansa wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 09:14
I have questions now that Brussels Airlines becomes eurowings.

What with the frequent flyer programme?

What in case of canceled flight, still rerouted on other airlines?

Will the customer handling will be of the same quality ?

I have heard stories that eurowings are struggeling with delays and cancelations? Correct?
Well EW has it's own frequent flyer program Boomerang so it might happen Boomerang will replace Loop in the future

They'll still reroute you on other airliners, the LH group to get you as quick as possible at your final destination

they do have a lot of delays and cancellations at the moment, also due to the same problem as SN and many others have which are the ATC slots and technical like SN has with their Sukhois from Cityjet EW has some technical problems too since they have LGW operating for them too
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by cathay belgium » 13 Aug 2018, 11:52

Hi,

That's not exact what I read in several EW stories...
They reroute you but only on EW flights not via LH,LX flights or others....

Boomerang exist indeed, but FF programs are a joke anyway nowadays if not pro.

In fact EW is just another Ryanair,Easyjet....

Hope SN can extend being SN for a time...
I'll pass for EW ,...

If you want some better options in case of... And want to spend a bit more... Book LH of LX through FRA,ZRH,MUC..


But it won't certainly NOT better from now for thé belgian flyer..
Like Hungary stuck with only 1 big LCC !!!!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 13 Aug 2018, 11:55

cathay belgium wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 11:52
Hi,

That's not exact what I read in several EW stories...
They reroute you but only on EW flights not via LH,LX flights or others....

Boomerang exist indeed, but FF programs are a joke anyway nowadays if not pro.

In fact EW is just another Ryanair,Easyjet....

Hope SN can extend being SN for a time...
I'll pass for EW ,...

If you want some better options in case of... And want to spend a bit more... Book LH of LX through FRA,ZRH,MUC..


But it won't certainly NOT better from now for thé belgian flyer..
Like Hungary stuck with only 1 big LCC !!!!

CXB
out of Germany indeed they rebook you on later EW flights .. but once the SN European network is implemented I wish them good luck in rerouting on EW only ... isn't there a sort of European Law which prevents endless connecting flights to arrive at your destination ?
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 13 Aug 2018, 13:04

So a detoriation on the service provided to passengers.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 13 Aug 2018, 14:34

b.lufthansa wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 09:14
I have questions now that Brussels Airlines becomes eurowings.

What with the frequent flyer programme?
Remember that you can still select Miles&More on SN. Which I do myself, since I also get M&M on my SN credit card!
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Ansett » 13 Aug 2018, 15:50

Earning miles with EW : (next to Boomerang as rightly pointed out by André)

https://www.miles-and-more.com/online/p ... &cid=18002
CTBke wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 10:05
b.lufthansa wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 09:14
I have questions now that Brussels Airlines becomes eurowings.

What with the frequent flyer programme?

What in case of canceled flight, still rerouted on other airlines?

Will the customer handling will be of the same quality ?

I have heard stories that eurowings are struggeling with delays and cancelations? Correct?
Well EW has it's own frequent flyer program Boomerang so it might happen Boomerang will replace Loop in the future

They'll still reroute you on other airliners, the LH group to get you as quick as possible at your final destination

they do have a lot of delays and cancellations at the moment, also due to the same problem as SN and many others have which are the ATC slots and technical like SN has with their Sukhois from Cityjet EW has some technical problems too since they have LGW operating for them too
An additonal problem at EW is the wild expansion which does not go without damage.

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cathay belgium wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 11:52
Hi,

That's not exact what I read in several EW stories...
They reroute you but only on EW flights not via LH,LX flights or others....

Boomerang exist indeed, but FF programs are a joke anyway nowadays if not pro.

In fact EW is just another Ryanair,Easyjet....

Hope SN can extend being SN for a time...
I'll pass for EW ,...

If you want some better options in case of... And want to spend a bit more... Book LH of LX through FRA,ZRH,MUC..


But it won't certainly NOT better from now for thé belgian flyer..
Like Hungary stuck with only 1 big LCC !!!!

CXB
I'm afraid you are right. Especially, since German quality is no longer what it was.
And Germany is no longer what is was (dieselgate, new Berlin airport..., if the latter had happened in Greece or Italy, the Germans would have said : well, what else can you expect form Greece or Italy !).

Fortunately, LH will probably not be able to buy (part of) AZ. LH Group is already too powerful.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 13 Aug 2018, 18:30

Is it so far I can not find the press release that Brussels Airlines is becoming Eurowings!!!!
I imagine this is internal news from somebody???
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 13 Aug 2018, 20:47

lumumba wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 18:30
Is it so far I can not find the press release that Brussels Airlines is becoming Eurowings!!!!
I imagine this is internal news from somebody???
Some articles:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ines-2019/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -airlines/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... economist/

And the decisions of mid-December 2016 (purchase of the last 55% by Lufthansa and integration into the Eurowings Group):
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -together/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... s-not-yet/
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by crew1990 » 13 Aug 2018, 20:57

sn26567 wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 20:47
lumumba wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 18:30
Is it so far I can not find the press release that Brussels Airlines is becoming Eurowings!!!!
I imagine this is internal news from somebody???
Some articles:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ines-2019/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -airlines/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... economist/

And the decisions of mid-December 2016 (purchase of the last 55% by Lufthansa and integration into the Eurowings Group):
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -together/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... s-not-yet/
Brussels Airlines is integrated in the Eurowings group and Lufthansa Group but Brussels Airlines is not "becoming" Eurowings.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 13 Aug 2018, 22:49

crew1990 wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 20:57
sn26567 wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 20:47
lumumba wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 18:30
Is it so far I can not find the press release that Brussels Airlines is becoming Eurowings!!!!
I imagine this is internal news from somebody???
Some articles:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ines-2019/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -airlines/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... economist/

And the decisions of mid-December 2016 (purchase of the last 55% by Lufthansa and integration into the Eurowings Group):
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -together/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... s-not-yet/
Brussels Airlines is integrated in the Eurowings group and Lufthansa Group but Brussels Airlines is not "becoming" Eurowings.
Brussels Airlines will be replaced by brand name Eurowings from 2019. On medium haul.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 14 Aug 2018, 06:33

Is the brand change confirmed?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by lumumba » 14 Aug 2018, 06:35

b.lufthansa wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 22:49
crew1990 wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 20:57
Brussels Airlines is integrated in the Eurowings group and Lufthansa Group but Brussels Airlines is not "becoming" Eurowings.
Brussels Airlines will be replaced by brand name Eurowings from 2019. On medium haul.
You have information about the confirmation of the brand change?
Can you confirm it has an insider maybe?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 14 Aug 2018, 11:42

lumumba wrote:
14 Aug 2018, 06:35
b.lufthansa wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 22:49
crew1990 wrote:
13 Aug 2018, 20:57


Brussels Airlines is integrated in the Eurowings group and Lufthansa Group but Brussels Airlines is not "becoming" Eurowings.
Brussels Airlines will be replaced by brand name Eurowings from 2019. On medium haul.
You have information about the confirmation of the brand change?
Can you confirm it has an insider maybe?
Carsten Spohr said it in an interview with VRT a couple of months ago, here's the link but it's in Dutch ...

but the name will change as he claims it's not that known in Europe but only in Africa

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/06/05 ... lein-om-e/
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