Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by nordikcam » 22 Jun 2019, 22:12

gumblebee wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 21:52
DannyVDB wrote:
21 Jun 2019, 08:22
OO-SFL is doing Acrra today, not Dakar

See https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-sfl

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If I can believe flyertalk, OO-SFL was flying SN515 to Washington today, and had to turn around because of an adminstrative problem.

See SN515/UA9903 Diverted back to Brussels. WHY?
If true...not very professionnal :roll:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by convair » 22 Jun 2019, 23:11

gumblebee wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 21:52
If I can believe flyertalk, OO-SFL was flying SN515 to Washington today, and had to turn around because of an adminstrative problem.
OMG! :shock: Someone better be ready to give a good explanation on Monday.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Jetter » 23 Jun 2019, 02:21

Definitely not good, especially if you’re the long haul center of excellence.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 23 Jun 2019, 11:22

According to Flightstats.com, OO-SFZ was planned for SN515 yesterday.
At 07:21LT, a change of equipment is recorded and Zulu is replaced by OO-SFL. Simultaneously a delay in departure time is applied.

Maybe this change driven by a technical issue didn't reach the level of administrative check?
Applying a sticker on the nose gear door "valid for..." may not be 100% fool proof (UA flight SFO to HNL that didn't have the ETOPS sticker...).

H.A.

Edit : mixed up between replaced and replacement.
Note to self : regardless of outside temperature, do no start with rosé wine before 9h in the morning.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 12:04

Outbound: FL360-380
Inbound: FL410
ATD 11:14L ATA 21:14L after 10 hours in the air (longer than the flight to IAD)!

Hence, no technical problem. Then what, Brussels Airlines? On Twitter, Brussels Airlines says "operational reason", the classical excuse that means nothing...
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 15:15

A summary of what happened with SN515: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ive-issue/
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Poiu » 23 Jun 2019, 15:45

sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 15:15
A summary of what happened with SN515: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ive-issue/


‘the fact that it had a Eurowings livery might have been a factor’
Seriously? We all now you hate EW, but let’s try to stay credible and refrain from writing nonsense.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 16:20

Poiu wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 15:45
sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 15:15
A summary of what happened with SN515: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ive-issue/


‘the fact that it had a Eurowings livery might have been a factor’
Seriously? We all now you hate EW, but let’s try to stay credible and refrain from writing nonsense.
The fact that it has a Eurowings livery means that Eurowings is involved, "volens nolens". Anyway, as I just received more accurate information, the text has been modified.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Poiu » 23 Jun 2019, 17:29

sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 16:20
The fact that it has a Eurowings livery means that Eurowings is involved, "volens nolens".
So if this would have been a Rackham 330, you would have blamed Tintin? :roll:
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 18:04

Poiu wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 17:29
sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 16:20
The fact that it has a Eurowings livery means that Eurowings is involved, "volens nolens".
So if this would have been Rackham 330, you would have blamed Tintin? :roll:
Come on, Poiu, that's bad faith. Tintin is not an airline, Eurowings is one: its name appears on the fuselage and people could wonder what has been going on with that Eurowings aircraft.
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Poiu » 23 Jun 2019, 18:43

sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 18:04
Poiu wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 17:29
sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 16:20
The fact that it has a Eurowings livery means that Eurowings is involved, "volens nolens".
So if this would have been Rackham 330, you would have blamed Tintin? :roll:
Come on, Poiu, that's bad faith. Tintin is not an airline, Eurowings is one: its name appears on the fuselage and people could wonder what has been going on with that Eurowings aircraft.
Andre, don’t continue to defend the indefensible, OO-SFL is an aircraft which is on SN’s AOC and it was operating a Brussels Airlines flight. They livery is totally irrelevant.
The original complaint on Flyer talk is from someone inquiring about United as they were holding a United ticket. If the flight would have had an EW codeshare your remark would have been justified, now however it makes you lose credibility as you are blaming/bashing EW, LH and CS on every possible and impossible opportunity.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by convair » 23 Jun 2019, 19:21

Poiu wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 18:43
If the flight would have had an EW codeshare your remark would have been justified,...
I did have the impression I had read a post here (I don't remember on which thread) stating that the US was now limiting sub-contracting (and/or codesharing?) flights to the US, even for companies belonging to a same group. That might be the cause of the "administrative problem" as OO-SFL, a former LH aircraft, is listed (in the unofficial LH group table) as leased to EW, contrary to OO-SFB which is in EW livery as well but is not listed as being leased to EW and is now flying apparently exclusively for SN.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by nordikcam » 23 Jun 2019, 19:32

I think especially at EW / SN or LH 'we could have predicted the problem ... but the management being so risky

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Robby » 24 Jun 2019, 15:03

TUI B737-700 (OO-JAL), just landed at BRU with fire trucks in trail. It seemed like a (partial) flaps-up landing.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Boeing767copilot » 25 Jun 2019, 06:49

sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 15:15
A summary of what happened with SN515: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ive-issue/

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html

On June 22, a Brussels Airlines flight from Brussels to Washington, DC, turned around mid-air and went back to its starting point, meaning that passengers spent a total of nine hours in the air to essentially go nowhere.
According to Belgian website Aviation24, flight SN515 was beset with challenges from the beginning.
Originally, the flight was supposed to depart at 10:15 a.m. local time from Brussels. But due to a last-minute change of aircraft, it left two hours late.

https://onemileatatime.com/brussels-air ... o-nowhere/

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Stij » 27 Jun 2019, 14:17

1,400 suitcases left behind at Brussels Airport due to insufficient capacity of baggage belt.
https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brus ... gage-belt/
And it's not the first time!!!
A few months ago it happened to family of mine... the same SN belt. Their bags only arrived 2 days later at their destination. So they had to buy a lot of stuff there. SN's response was "No compensation because it's not our fault". And that was it.
Of course it's not SN's fault, but Brussels Airport's. Bagagebelts aren't supposed to break down every two months.
So, in the end, as a passenger you pay for the lack of maintenance / lack of timely replacement investment of Brussels Airport... But look at our shopping malls, office buildings and happy shareholders!

Cheers,

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Ozzie1969 » 03 Jul 2019, 11:15

Stij wrote:
27 Jun 2019, 14:17
1,400 suitcases left behind at Brussels Airport due to insufficient capacity of baggage belt.
https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brus ... gage-belt/
And it's not the first time!!!
A few months ago it happened to family of mine... the same SN belt. Their bags only arrived 2 days later at their destination. So they had to buy a lot of stuff there. SN's response was "No compensation because it's not our fault". And that was it.
Of course it's not SN's fault, but Brussels Airport's. Bagagebelts aren't supposed to break down every two months.
So, in the end, as a passenger you pay for the lack of maintenance / lack of timely replacement investment of Brussels Airport... But look at our shopping malls, office buildings and happy shareholders!

Cheers,

Stij
Usually they just damage your Luggage. A change is as good as a rest, I guess...

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 03 Jul 2019, 17:41

Ozzie1969 wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 11:15
Stij wrote:
27 Jun 2019, 14:17
1,400 suitcases left behind at Brussels Airport due to insufficient capacity of baggage belt.
https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brus ... gage-belt/
And it's not the first time!!!
A few months ago it happened to family of mine... the same SN belt. Their bags only arrived 2 days later at their destination. So they had to buy a lot of stuff there. SN's response was "No compensation because it's not our fault". And that was it.
Of course it's not SN's fault, but Brussels Airport's. Bagagebelts aren't supposed to break down every two months.
So, in the end, as a passenger you pay for the lack of maintenance / lack of timely replacement investment of Brussels Airport... But look at our shopping malls, office buildings and happy shareholders!

Cheers,

Stij
Usually they just damage your Luggage. A change is as good as a rest, I guess...
Amsterdam Schiphol is not doing better:

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... -schiphol/
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Stij » 03 Jul 2019, 18:09

sn26567 wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 17:41
Amsterdam Schiphol is not doing better:

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... -schiphol/
But not twice in a couple of months... when I search the news the previous time it went wrong was last year in bagage reclaim...

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Jul 2019, 18:10

This happens also with us but with Aeroflot but they paid us 300$ for 6 bags with one day delay....
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