SN Brussels Airlines' Loadfactor - part 2

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 23 Jun 2005, 19:39

http://www.aea.be/AEAWebsite/DataFiles/ ... u_2005.zip

because it´s getting harder and harder to compare without having to decypher everything.

small tip: get a bigger resolution ...

AFApresident · Post by **AFApresident** » 23 Jun 2005, 19:41

Thanks Blackhawk !

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 23 Jun 2005, 21:54

AFApresident wrote: Is it possible to enter these numbers in excel sheet and upload the file somewhere or to take a screenshot and post it on this website, because it´s getting harder and harder to compare without having to decypher everything.

et voila:

I hope this helps a little bit

Chris

AFApresident · Post by **AFApresident** » 24 Jun 2005, 13:13

This is perfect!!!

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 26 Jun 2005, 09:00

Hi,

About the figures themselves:

It seems that SNBA has reduced capacity over the first 5 months. That's the main reason for the better loadfactors (and April was even a decrease). What did they do with the remaining capacity? Used for charters? Maintenance of the AVRO fleet? ...

Another question: were the passengers of the Thalys counted for in the previous statistics or not?

Danny

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 24 Jul 2005, 15:03

Hello,

here is an update of the SNBA loadfactor:

SN Brussels Airlines:
01/2002....35.2............01/2003...49.2 +14.1% .............01/2004....52.9 +3.6%.............01/2005....59.3 +6.4%
02.............41.5............02............50.1 +8.6% ............... 02/2004....55.8 +5.8%.............02/2005....60.4 +4.6%
03.............44.7............03............51.2 +6.5% ............... 03/2004....56.9 +5.7%.............03/2005....59.7 +2.8%
04.............42.7............04............54.2 +11.5% ............. 04/2004....56.8 +2.6% ............04/2005....59.4 +2.6%
05.............39.3............05............52.7 +13.5% ............. 05/2004....56,8 +4,1% ............05/2005....60.6 +3.8%
06.............47.8............06............57.0 +9.2% ................06/2004....61,0 +4,0% ............06/2005....62.1 +1,1%
07.............56.1............07............67.0 +10.9%...............07/2004....71,3 +4,3%
08.............56.0............08............69.3 +13.3%...............08/2004....71,3 +2,0%
09.............53.9............09............61.1 +7.2%.................09/2004....65,6 +4,5%
10.............49.5............10............56.6 +7.1%...............10/2004....60,6 +4.0%
11.............45.1............11............56.6 +11.7%...............11/2004....56,8 +0,3%
12.............51.7............12............59.1 +7.4% ................12/2004....61.8 +2.8%

Post by **sn26567** » 24 Jul 2005, 16:37

It's getting more and more difficult to increase the LF every month compared to the previous year!

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 24 Jul 2005, 17:14

Indeed. Now let's hope they are still able to increase the yields and especially the Business class load factor !!!

Chris

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 30 Aug 2005, 17:55

Hello,

here is an update of the SNBA loadfactor:

SN Brussels Airlines:
01/2002....35.2............01/2003...49.2 +14.1% .............01/2004....52.9 +3.6%.............01/2005....59.3 +6.4%
02.............41.5............02............50.1 +8.6% ............... 02/2004....55.8 +5.8%.............02/2005....60.4 +4.6%
03.............44.7............03............51.2 +6.5% ............... 03/2004....56.9 +5.7%.............03/2005....59.7 +2.8%
04.............42.7............04............54.2 +11.5% ............. 04/2004....56.8 +2.6% ............04/2005....59.4 +2.6%
05.............39.3............05............52.7 +13.5% ............. 05/2004....56,8 +4,1% ............05/2005....60.6 +3.8%
06.............47.8............06............57.0 +9.2% ................06/2004....61,0 +4,0% ............06/2005....62.1 +1,1%
07.............56.1............07............67.0 +10.9%...............07/2004....71,3 +4,3% ............07/2005.... 71,3+0,0%
08.............56.0............08............69.3 +13.3%...............08/2004....71,3 +2,0%
09.............53.9............09............61.1 +7.2%.................09/2004....65,6 +4,5%
10.............49.5............10............56.6 +7.1%...............10/2004....60,6 +4.0%
11.............45.1............11............56.6 +11.7%...............11/2004....56,8 +0,3%
12.............51.7............12............59.1 +7.4% ................12/2004....61.8 +2.8%

Post by **sn26567** » 31 Aug 2005, 08:30

I still wonder whether the load factor includes the numerous charter flights operated duting summer: they should push the figure up!

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 31 Aug 2005, 12:12

I agree with you André.

And another think (though they won't do it I'm sure

): They could also divide the LF in C loadfactor and Y loadfactor .... But that's probably "confidential"

Anyway I hope MR SN is reading this so he can answer us.

Chris

FlyA330 · Post by **FlyA330** » 01 Sep 2005, 16:54

Compared with other European airlines it's not so good (april 2005):

1 - KLM - 82.7%
2 - Swiss - 79.4%
3 - Lufthansa - 77.5%
4 - Air France - 76.9%
5 - British Airways - 74.7 %
6 - Iberia - 73.5%
7 - Austrian - 71.1%
8 - TAP - 71.1%
9 - SAS - 70.1%
10 - Alitalia - 68.8%
11 - Finnair - 65.9%
12 - CZA - 63.2%
13 - Malev - 59.8%
14 - SNBA - 59.4%

Sabena_690 · Post by **Sabena_690** » 01 Sep 2005, 17:38

@FlyA330: except for OK and MA, you can't compare SN with airlines like IB/AF/..., as the shorthaul network of those airlines is filled with lot's of longhaul passengers connecting to European destinations.

Swiss also has a high loadfactor, but look at the difference in loadfactor between longhaul and shorthaul, and you will know what I mean.

Frederic

FlyA330 · Post by **FlyA330** » 02 Sep 2005, 09:19

Sabena_690,

Do you have the loadfigures of SNBA on the LH and SH, MH?

EBBR · Post by **EBBR** » 19 Sep 2005, 08:00

sn26567 wrote:I still wonder whether the load factor includes the numerous charter flights operated duting summer: they should push the figure up!

sn26567,

I have heard the same rumours: SN adds the full loaded charter flights to improve the figure!

FlightSimCrew · Post by **FlightSimCrew** » 19 Sep 2005, 10:08

Its only a few flights so shouldnt have that much impact

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 19 Sep 2005, 18:29

EBBR wrote:
sn26567 wrote:I still wonder whether the load factor includes the numerous charter flights operated duting summer: they should push the figure up!
sn26567,

I have heard the same rumours: SN adds the full loaded charter flights to improve the figure!

Which rumours?

It does not make much sense since the major reason for higher LF is exactly the lower capacity because capacity is used for charters ...!

PS: check the complete XLS

Danny

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 29 Sep 2005, 09:42

Hello,

here is an update of the SNBA loadfactor:

SN Brussels Airlines:
01/2002....35.2............01/2003...49.2 +14.1% .............01/2004....52.9 +3.6%.............01/2005....59.3 +6.4%
02.............41.5............02............50.1 +8.6% ............... 02/2004....55.8 +5.8%.............02/2005....60.4 +4.6%
03.............44.7............03............51.2 +6.5% ............... 03/2004....56.9 +5.7%.............03/2005....59.7 +2.8%
04.............42.7............04............54.2 +11.5% ............. 04/2004....56.8 +2.6% ............04/2005....59.4 +2.6%
05.............39.3............05............52.7 +13.5% ............. 05/2004....56,8 +4,1% ............05/2005....60.6 +3.8%
06.............47.8............06............57.0 +9.2% ................06/2004....61,0 +4,0% ............06/2005....62.1 +1,1%
07.............56.1............07............67.0 +10.9%...............07/2004....71,3 +4,3% ............07/2005.... 71,3+0,0%
08.............56.0............08............69.3 +13.3%...............08/2004....71,3 +2,0% ............08/2005.... 71,3+0,1%
09.............53.9............09............61.1 +7.2%.................09/2004....65,6 +4,5%
10.............49.5............10............56.6 +7.1%...............10/2004....60,6 +4.0%
11.............45.1............11............56.6 +11.7%...............11/2004....56,8 +0,3%
12.............51.7............12............59.1 +7.4% ................12/2004....61.8 +2.8%

You see it right, 71.3 again …

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 29 Sep 2005, 11:00

but I don't see the 0.1% increase then Blackhawk

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 29 Sep 2005, 11:27

In that case, check it yourself my dear collegue

http://www.aea.be/AEAWebsite/DataFiles/ ... u_2005.zip