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English language skills and training

Post by jan_olieslagers » 22 May 2019, 21:20

Aviation will and has to change
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Commercial air transport will and has ...

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Post by Conti764 » 22 May 2019, 21:23

jan_olieslagers wrote:
22 May 2019, 21:20
Aviation will and has to change
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Commercial air transport will and has ...
Are you going to repeat this over and over again...? :roll:

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 22 May 2019, 21:30

Yes, as long as required. A chair is a chair and a table is a table. And aviation is more than commercial air transport. But I agree some people are slow to see.

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Post by luchtzak » 22 May 2019, 22:12

My contribution, the mistakes I used to make ;-)

One aircraft - two aircraft
One piece of luggage - two pieces of luggage

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 23 May 2019, 06:14

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Post by Conti764 » 23 May 2019, 15:56

jan_olieslagers wrote:
22 May 2019, 21:30
Yes, as long as required. A chair is a chair and a table is a table. And aviation is more than commercial air transport. But I agree some people are slow to see.
I understand the difference, but I don't think it's worth the frustration.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 23 May 2019, 16:28

The real frustration is the number of people round this "aviation" forum who have caught nothing of the spirit of an aviator. Some even consider themselves "aviation geeks" - I would not fear handing them the keys of my little plane, they'd be too dumb to even start the engine I am sure. Geek?? Haha.

Edited to add: please forget the above paragraph. I was mistaken in the word "geek", as explained later. (And again, why cannot we have a strike-through option here like most forums have?) Still, my below paragraph still stands!

Expressing one's self unambiguously yet in few words is one key aspect of aviation, I expect it as self-evident from anyone in aviation, also on this forum. Those who cannot or won't are (for me, at least) "wannabe's". And yes, I'll tell them, from time to time.
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Post by KriVa » 23 May 2019, 16:55

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geek
/ɡiːk/

INFORMAL

be or become extremely excited or enthusiastic about a subject, typically one of specialist or minority interest.
Why would, according to this definition, an “aviation geek” have to be able to pilot a plane? There’s a lot more to aviation than just being a pilot.
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Post by jan_olieslagers » 23 May 2019, 17:32

Yes yes, of course - this remark had to come, of course - that is exactly my point: many round here are narrowing down "aviation" to "commercial air transport" and there is indeed much more to it.

No, one does not have to be a pilot - but if interested in cooking, I expect people to try and learn form cooks, and to try and follow their example. People interested in aviation, I expect to take their example from aviators, be they pilots or cabin crew or ATC staff. All of these know the importance of concise precise language - "the meaning of the word".

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Post by convair » 24 May 2019, 04:35

jan_olieslagers wrote:
23 May 2019, 17:32
Yes yes, of course - this remark had to come, of course - that is exactly my point: many round here are narrowing down "aviation" to "commercial air transport" and there is indeed much more to it.

No, one does not have to be a pilot - but if interested in cooking, I expect people to try and learn form cooks, and to try and follow their example. People interested in aviation, I expect to take their example from aviators, be they pilots or cabin crew or ATC staff. All of these know the importance of concise precise language - "the meaning of the word".
Keep on nitpicking, Jan. I learn something every time: I have no connection with the aviation world and English is not my mother tongue.

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Re: English language skills and training

Post by luchtzak » 23 Jun 2019, 23:12

I am always open for improvement, looking at the following comment it is necessary :-D

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/trip ... ment-56665

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