Industrial action @ EBCI, 45 RYR flights cancelled

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 15 Jun 2007, 08:24

NOTAM EB/A0755/07

NEW TODAY TIL 0706152100
AD CLSD DUE TO INDUSTRIAL ACTION

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/notices. ... rike-en-GB

http://book.wizzair.com/breaking_news/

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 15 Jun 2007, 11:08

There had been no strike at CRL since an eternity (at least one year). One was beginning to worry : has Wallony changed ?
No, let's be reassured, in an ever changing world, good old Wallony remains always the same !

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 15 Jun 2007, 14:28

If there were not those thousands of stranded passengers, I wouldn't mind this black humour "industrial action".

Pax who have booked and paid for a hotel and/or a rented car will loose that money.

"Industrial sabotage" seems more approproate to me.

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 15 Jun 2007, 16:44

Charleroi's actual security people are all working as employees of the region. The security chain at the airport is going to be privatised, which means all these people are going to get fired in order to have new security people from the private sector.
That way the region hopes to save money...

I can understand those people, too bad people got stuck at the airport, the information was there, but was given too late, I think (only this morning).
They should have announced the strike 2 days in advance on the media.

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 15 Jun 2007, 17:56

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote: Charleroi's actual security people are all working as employees of the region. The security chain at the airport is going to be privatised, which means all these people are going to get fired in order to have new security people from the private sector.
That way the region hopes to save money...

These strikers are not only “employees of the region”: they are civil servants, which means they cannot be fired under Belgian law (unless in case of theft, violence or voluntary damage). The way their life-time-contract should be transmitted into a private contract was part of the ongoing negotiations. Example: how many years of duty will an employee, now working under a public servant status, get when he starts working with the private company?

But it seems that “public servants” are afraid from “to serve”. Or from “to work”?

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote: I can understand those people, too bad people got stuck at the airport, the information was there, but was given too late, I think (only this morning). They should have announced the strike 2 days in advance on the media.

“Too bad people got stuck”. Nonsens. This is another scandalous, outrageous hostage drama by a very selected group of people. Aim: to cause as much damage as possible, hoping that counter party will give in because giving in will cost less then the damage if the strike goes on.

And then, off course, a union delegate/sympathiser here tells us these poor guys really were forced to go on strike because they were going to be fired (= because, you know, they don’t like to go on strike, blablabla).

“Information was given too late”: you must be joking. There was no information given at all: I’ve heard about the strike on the 07h00 news on the radio, and my previous information was that negotiations would take place at noon (with a deadline from the unions for 15h00).

I therefore apologise to all those stranded pax for every reply here in which the strike is "explained".

Acid-drop · Post by **Acid-drop** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:38

it was not a wildcat strike, but it's still an illegal strike by law (justice decided after ryanair lawsuit) : the airports will reopen soon.

Dont play with the nerves of that minister, he's the one always fighting the stikes of the bus drivers (who also love to strike for now reason at all, ie : verbal "violence").

Those people should understand that a lack of respect for the travelers dont bring them anything good. And if they win now, nobody would forget how they won it and it will be worse later.

jaf217 · Post by **jaf217** » 15 Jun 2007, 19:18

airport is now back open, but nothing sure for the week-end for the moment.

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 15 Jun 2007, 20:08

Acid-drop wrote:
Those people should understand that a lack of respect for the travelers dont bring them anything good. And if they win now, nobody would forget how they won it and it will be worse later.

Those people don't understand anything. Looking at them on the TV, you plainly see that they are not the best and the brightest, to say the least.
They blindly follow their union leaders, who couldn't care less about the airport and its workers. The unions want to fight the minister, who is rather set against their dictatorial attitude (also in public transport like TEC). It's all politics...

TUB001 · Post by **TUB001** » 15 Jun 2007, 20:26

Acid-drop wrote: Those people don't understand anything. Looking at them on the TV, you plainly see that they are not the best and the brightest, to say the least.

You're too kind here!

Between having loooooong, bright and constructive discussions, playing cards in front of a PC, watching porn (not joking... surprised one of these guys one day...) and playing the big boss, I seriously do NOT know what they do! Absolutely NEVER saw them working on anything. You need a *LOT* of patience to cope with this kind of people everyday! You cannot imagine...

I have much much more respect for the ground handlers working hard in every kind of weather, and this without ever complaining that way...

This "action" is absolutely outrageous... simply unacceptable.

One thing is sure, they do realize how "lucky" (if we can call that luck) to be where they are at the moment. I believe they don't like it when they feel they are gonna have to work one day...

Sorry to sound that rude but that it is so low...

Cartman · Post by **Cartman** » 16 Jun 2007, 04:01

Ryanair has cancelled all flights this weekend to and from CRL...

TUB001 · Post by **TUB001** » 16 Jun 2007, 11:08

Cartman wrote:Ryanair has cancelled all flights this weekend to and from CRL...

And that is gonna cost a lot of money to the Walloon Region...

Airbus330lover · Post by **Airbus330lover** » 16 Jun 2007, 11:35

Yep,

Il wil cost a lot of money.
It's not nomal to close an airport for 3 days due to strike.
To solutions for the future:
1.Replace this huys with private society
2.Put another cmdt for the security (the actual one is on strike to)
3.Let the police apply the verdit of the juge

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 16 Jun 2007, 19:42

CRL airport will reopen at 2000 to-day (saturday 16 june).
http://www.charleroi-airport.com/doc.ph ... d=1&site=1

euroflyer · Post by **euroflyer** » 16 Jun 2007, 20:54

Will be interesting to see if Ryanair will react somehow. Following their very strict business model I would not be surprised if they would downsize their operations at CRL if more "actions" are following. Ryanair these days can make money nearly everywhere in Europe, so why loose it at CRL ??

Post by **sn26567** » 17 Jun 2007, 11:08

Ryanair had threatened to leave Charleroi if the strike went on. After having created its first continental base there, it could have been another first: the first continental base to be closed!

Thanks to all trade unions for creating such a climate through their 'industrial action' (or ratehr 'inaction')!

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 17 Jun 2007, 11:54

I would not play that game twice if I was a MET functionnary... Ryanair would NOT hesitate a second to leave CRL. It's written in the contract linking them and the Walloon Region.

When you know what FR does on a daily basis to maximize the use of its fleet, I'm not sure O'Leary is willing to accept such stunts next time.

Time to sack those incompetent and useless people. Some MET ramp marshallers do not even speak a single word of english...

FB.

eurofighter · Post by **eurofighter** » 17 Jun 2007, 12:08

The people that striked in CRL are complete nutters. With the airport mainly used by ruthless, but straight to the point, Ryanair, you can be sure that if the unions would only as so much hint to strike again, then Ryanair will be gone by the next winterschedule. I am sure Lille or Liège (or any other regional airport in Europe) will be more than happy to take their flights. Result: the airport will lose the flights, and jobs ultimately will be lost. Why is it so often that public sector workers with their life time acquired "rights" ruin the work and lives of so many others by industrial action - if they actually did any activity in their lifetime...

Sad for both passengers and the other workers that are willing to make the airport a success!

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 17 Jun 2007, 12:37

According to the sunday newspaper "7Dimanche" :
- Wizzair and Jet4You are due to fly to Charleroi again today.
- it is said that the unions have asked Ryanair to bring back its CRL-based aircraft yesterday evening, in order to start the flights this morning.
David Gering answered that relaunching the flights involves a complex procedure, impossible to carry out so soon. "We will try and be ready for monday", he said. Ryanair will notify its customers.
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/notices. ... rike-en-GB

stefanel · Post by **stefanel** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:33

I also think this strike was a shame.
However, I think Ryanair acted strange as well.
I don't understand why Ryanair had his 4 based-in-Charleroi planes leave the airport on Saturday early afternoon...
Does anyone understand what they had in mind ?
Did they use those planes ? Normally they shouldn't as all planes fly back and forth from Charleroi.
And why didn't they come back on Saturday night when the strike was suspended to run the Sunday flights ?

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 18 Jun 2007, 10:49

When there is such action which costs many many euros, Ryanair is smart enough to not just sit and look what happens. It's very wise of them. Maybe they used the gap to do some maintenance on the planes that was due shortly?