Original: getting married in a Boeing 747 !

Post by **luchtzak** » 27 Sep 2005, 15:23

This is one of the best locations for aviation enthusiasts to get married: a Boeing 747, you can choose between economy class, business class or the cargo-compartments:

The jumbo is located in the Aviodrome at Lelystad:

Nationaal Luchtvaart-Themapark Aviodrome
Pelikaanweg 50
8218 PG Luchthaven Lelystad

More info in Dutch on http://www.aviodrome.nl

Ovostar · Post by **Ovostar** » 27 Sep 2005, 15:39

so why do KLM don't use this 747-400 ? if it would be a 747-200 i would understand, but the 747-400 is too recent to be in a museum, no ?

Post by **luchtzak** » 27 Sep 2005, 15:41

Ovostar wrote:so why do KLM don't use this 747-400 ? if it would be a 747-200 i would understand, but the 747-400 is too recent to be in a museum, no ?

Yes indeed, my mistake

It's the last classic Boeing 747 so it must be a 747-200.

Post by **sn26567** » 27 Sep 2005, 15:44

luchtzak wrote:Yes indeed, my mistake It's the last classic Boeing 747 so it must be a 747-200.

But the pic shows a -400 !

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 27 Sep 2005, 16:04

sn26567 wrote:
luchtzak wrote:Yes indeed, my mistake It's the last classic Boeing 747 so it must be a 747-200.
But the pic shows a -400 !

Because the original upperdeck was stretched.

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 27 Sep 2005, 16:20

don't think it's a -400, no winglets

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 27 Sep 2005, 16:40

It's 747-200SUD (Stretched Upper Deck) in the 1980's KLM enlarged the upper deck of some of it's 747-200's, and PH-BUK was one of them...

Post by **sn26567** » 27 Sep 2005, 17:24

Thanks, sab319

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 27 Sep 2005, 18:12

Isnt a -200SUD the same as a -300?

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 27 Sep 2005, 18:34

vc-10 wrote:Isnt a -200SUD the same as a -300?

well it looks the same outside, but the 200SUD's where built as "normal" 200's in the seventies and only received the larger upperdeck in the eighties, while the 300's got them newly built. that's probably the only difference...

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 27 Sep 2005, 19:00

Yeah, thats what I mean. I knew they were converted.

Ovostar · Post by **Ovostar** » 27 Sep 2005, 19:54

how were they converted ??? the whole plane is longer, or just the 2nd floor ?

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 27 Sep 2005, 20:06

Ovostar wrote:how were they converted ??? the whole plane is longer, or just the 2nd floor ?

Just the upper deck, I've seen a pic and report about how they did it somewhere...

V-Bird · Post by **V-Bird** » 27 Sep 2005, 22:26

sn26567 wrote:
luchtzak wrote:Yes indeed, my mistake It's the last classic Boeing 747 so it must be a 747-200.
But the pic shows a -400 !

This pic dont show a 747-400, she has no winglets and other engines! The 747-200 Stretched upper deck received at the time some cockpit modifications and enlarged fueltanks, so that the klm could use this planes on 747-300 routes........

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 28 Sep 2005, 10:18

I keep reading on forums that these KLM birds were 747-200 SUD's - which is fine. However, having flown on probably all of the KLM 200SUD's / 300's at one point or another over the last 10 or 12 years I must say I curious. On no occasion did the safety card say B747-200SUD - it was always B747-300 or with 7 pallet added to indicate combi. How come KLM just referred to them as 747-300's if they weren't?

ALso - did they really just stretch the upper decks of a -200? Surely not after building? I wouldn't have thought that would be cost effective for anyone?

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 28 Sep 2005, 10:40

The B747-200SUD programme wasn't successful since KLM was the only customer operating them.

They had indeed a streched upper deck, which was a design with less drag then the B747 with a smaller upperdeck. In addition to that they were able to seat more people on that deck.

I don't know why only KLM had them though ?

Chris

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 28 Sep 2005, 11:57

Thannks, though I just can;t understand how it would have been cost effective to stretch after building even allowing for drag. Also - any idea why KLM kept calling them 747-300's when they weren't?

lastrow · Post by **lastrow** » 29 Sep 2005, 15:28

hi,

for this topic, a nice article is:

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-65189/transpo ... series.htm

German listing of 747 types ever built:

http://www.luftfahrt-eisenach.de/B747/B747.htm

... just nice to read.

-lr.

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 29 Sep 2005, 22:20

I would expect that if they have 1 type of card to save costs, as the planes are effectivly identicle.