TUIFly Belgium (ex-Jetairfly) Boeing 787 Dreamliners

[airtrainer]

This sounds like a great moment for a big Sinterklaas cadeau for avgeeks belgium !
Anyone from Jetairfly reading luchtzak.be ?
What more can I say, introductionflight for aviationlovers all over belgium!
Sabena filled four jumbojets in one day as a farewell flight, guess the 787 introduction deserves at least one !

CXB

And an awesome self birthday present for myself Count me in !!

[JAF737]

Indeed, it should be in the same config as Thomson, so:

Dreamclass: 2-3-2
Economy plus: 3-3-3
Economy: 3-3-3

[sn26567]

Jetairfly to Start Boeing 787 Caribbean Operation from late-Dec 2013

Jetairfly from late-December 2013 introduces Boeing 787 aircraft service to its Caribbean operation, replacing Boeing 767. The 787 aircraft is currently scheduled to operate service to Cancun, Montego Bay, Punta Cana, Santo Domingo and Varadero.

eff 20DEC13 Brussels – Cancun 1 weekly

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TB501 BRU0615 – 1000  CUN 787 5
TB502 CUN1130 – 0415+1BRU 787 5

eff 21DEC13 Brussels – Punta Cana – Montego Bay – Brussels 2 weekly

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TB601 BRU0615 – 1120PUJ 787 6
TB303 BRU1125 – 1630PUJ 787 3

TB602 PUJ1250 – 1350MBJ1450 – 0610+1BRU 787 6
TB304 PUJ1800 – 1905MBJ2005 – 1120+1BRU 787 3

eff 22DEC13 Brussels – Santo Domingo – Punta Cana – Brussels 2 weekly

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TB703 BRU0810 – 1320SDQ 787 7
TB203 BRU1110 – 1620SDQ 787 2

TB704 SDQ1420 – 1505PUJ1635 – 0625+1BRU 787 7
TB204 SDQ1720 – 1805PUJ1935 – 0930+1BRU 787 2

eff 23DEC13 Brussels – Varadero – Cancun – Brussels 1 weekly

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TB107 BRU0810 – 1300VRA 787 1
TB108 VRA1400 – 1425CUN1625 – 0910+1BRU 787 1

Source: Airline Route

[KriVa]

Indeed, it should be in the same config as Thomson, so:

Dreamclass: 2-3-2
Economy plus: 3-3-3
Economy: 3-3-3

I had The chance to go on board during the T&Gs in OST, and I really hadn't noticed the three classes. Thanks for pointing it out! Not sure how I missed it, though

[veldmuis]

First commercial flight of OO-JDL would be on 20 DEC 2013 it seems (and that's my birthday...).

[sn26567]

First commercial flight of OO-JDL would be on 20 DEC 2013 it seems (and that's my birthday...).

Yes, indeed, to Cancun (see above post with timetable). Think of a birthday present?

[veldmuis]

First commercial flight of OO-JDL would be on 20 DEC 2013 it seems (and that's my birthday...).

Yes, indeed, to Cancun (see above post with timetable). Think of a birthday present?

Well, I just mused over AirTrainer's earlier post (25 SEP). If there's no special (eg SN-747-style; on which I was too) flight with JAF's 787 around 6 DEC (his birthday?), at least there's a regular flight on 20 DEC ...

[sn26567]

Boeing warns that the US shutdown could slow jet deliveries. Each aircraft delivered needs indeed FAA approval, and it is not sure that an FAA employee will still be available to grant the authorisation.

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1380758850.html

A possible delay in the delivery of Jetairfly's 787 ?

[Passenger]

ArkeFly, Jetairfly's sister company within TUI in the Netherlands, has changed its name into "Arke".

Will the new 787 be a Jetairfly aircraft, or a Jetair?

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL/Ar ... am_in_Arke

[sn26567]

Will the new 787 be a Jetairfly aircraft, or a Jetair?

The latest released pictures show "Jetairfly"

http://www.jetairflydreamliner.com/

And the name of the aircraft will be "Diamond", registered OO-JDL as already stated in a previous post.

[Sai]

The latest released pictures show "Jetairfly"
http://www.jetairflydreamliner.com/

Great Link! Answers all my questions I posted Thanks!

[OO-ITR]

Will the new 787 be a Jetairfly aircraft, or a Jetair?

The latest released pictures show "Jetairfly"

http://www.jetairflydreamliner.com/

And the name of the aircraft will be "Diamond", registered OO-JDL as already stated in a previous post.

And still no sign of their new destination MIA. So MIA will be flown with the old 767. Why?

[Bralo20]

Wow... Economy will be cattle extreme:

"Reis je in economy dan heb je meer dan 75cm beenruimte" --> That's actually 29,5 inch of seatpitch???
"In economy+ heb je ZELFS meer dan 85cm beenruimte" --> 33,5 inch is reasonable for regular economy

This in combination with 9 abreast? Damn, I feel sorry allready for those passengers...

Premium club is reasonable though still not much special: 95cm or 37 inch of seatpitch (but 7 abreast instead of 9)

[air belgium]

Any news of european destinations before JAF 787 starts longhaul destinations?
Many thanks.

[Passenger]

Wow... Economy will be cattle extreme:

"Reis je in economy dan heb je meer dan 75cm beenruimte" --> That's actually 29,5 inch of seatpitch???
"In economy+ heb je ZELFS meer dan 85cm beenruimte" --> 33,5 inch is reasonable for regular economy

This in combination with 9 abreast? Damn, I feel sorry allready for those passengers...

Premium club is reasonable though still not much special: 95cm or 37 inch of seatpitch (but 7 abreast instead of 9)

Jetairfly says it’s "leg room / beenruimte / espace pour les jambes", and not seat pitch. Seat pitch includes the thickness of the seat. What they call “leg room” is probably the distance from back to front, on seat level. Quite misleading actually, because the average Jetairfly client (and I know a lot of them) will think that the “espace pour les jambes / beenruimte” is the empty space between your seat end and the back of the seat in front of you. Why not add arrows on the photo to avoid this confusion?

But you are right indeed: even with very thin seats, it’s looks poor. Like in most cattle class:
http://www.airlinequality.com/Product/seats_europe.htm

(edited -> typo error)

[Inquirer]

Wow, that is very very poor indeed, especially given it's a plane deployed on long routes!

I agree with passenger: they've wrongfully translated 'seatpitch' into 'beenruimte', thus giving a completely false meaning to these values: the real legroom in such a sardine configuration is what? 15 cm at best????
75 cm like they claim as legroom, that's when you put your legs in your neck, which some passengers might actually have to do!

Shame on Jetair for this highly misleading statement, as I have a feeling it's not done by accident! something for the "VOLT reclametest" of VRT?

[Boavida]

ArkeFly, Jetairfly's sister company within TUI in the Netherlands, has changed its name into "Arke".

Will the new 787 be a Jetairfly aircraft, or a Jetair?

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL/Ar ... am_in_Arke

Good decision of Arke. I've never understood this stupid "fly" behind the TUI-names.

Thomsonfly ditched the "fly", now Arkefly ditched the "fly". What is Jetairfly waiting for to do the same? Jetair sounds a lot nicer than "Jetairfly"...

Btw, customers don't even use the name Jetairfly. They all say "I fly with Jetair".

[Bralo20]

I think it may actually be seatpitch...

Thomson has only 2 classes on their 788 (premium and regular economy) and they manage to get 288 people in the plane with 36" in premium and 33" in regular economy.

However JAF is using a 3 class layout in their 788 and yet they manage to get 300 people in the plane (12 more then Thomson) and it seems that premium will be as big as Thomsom (7 rows).

So a true cattle carrier?

[Sai]

I wouldn't exaggerate

Wow... Economy will be cattle extreme:
"Reis je in economy dan heb je meer dan 75cm beenruimte" --> That's actually 29,5 inch of seatpitch???
"In economy+ heb je ZELFS meer dan 85cm beenruimte" --> 33,5 inch is reasonable for regular economy
Premium club is reasonable though still not much special: 95cm or 37 inch of seatpitch

It says "more then", so probably a standard pitch of 30" and 34" in eco+...In Dutch it sounds weird if you advertise the correct conversion to cm, you would say: 76,2 cm and 86,4 cm of legroom...just as there is no direct translation for 'seatpitch'.
A 737 has 28" seatpitch and with the new thinner seats installed on airlines now It's not like you're banging your knees at the seat in front of you

(...)However JAF is using a 3 class layout in their 788 and yet they manage to get 300 people in the plane (12 more then Thomson) and it seems that premium will be as big as Thomsom (7 rows).
So a true cattle carrier?

So, it's even less then 1 and a half row more...
More legroom means less seats, less revenue for an airline and let's face it...the long-haul 'leisure' market in Belgium just isn't big enough to fill (pay) an airplane with well paid business seats every flight.

[sean1982]

Guys, it's a LCC(as they say themselves) and a charter airline. Seat pitch is standard for that sort of operation. You want more? Take a legacy carrier and pay more.