LH seems to have huge plans in the Far East.
Lufthansa is upgrading, reinforcing and extending its network and services:
Frankfurt-Beijing Upgr from A340 to B747-400
Munich-Shanghai Res 3x a wk A340-300
LH is strenghtening its services: technics, logistics, commercial and via its alliances.
LH's latest in Bangkok is a ADPSS = Airline Data Processing and Shared Services Limited. It is a newly established and independent company, which is owned by and serves Lufthansa German Airines.
ADPSS has been established to serve LH by centralizing their Asian, Pacific and Middle Eastern ticketing and billing data.
ADPSS now requires 30x Data Processing officers, 30x Sales Reporting officers, and Accountants to work in a brand new office environment in BKK near Asoke. German staff is already recruted.
Somebody more about LH's plan?
Fons
What are LH's plans for the Far East?
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Who are TG's best friends?
For the guys that know TG a long time some will say SK.
But that is long time ago. That was in the time SN was flying to BKK.
Actually its best buddies are UA and LH.
They buy 747 from UA and LH makes BKK one of its most important business hubs.
Look @ the LH-Arrivals in BKK - Bangkok International, Thailand
Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 00:00
Flight From Sched Expected Gate Status
LH 9759 Brisbane International, Australia05:00 On Time
LH 9714 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany06:45 06:29 Landed
LH 9749 Penang - International, Malaysia 09:20 09:25 Landed
LH 9733 Vientiane, Lao People's Democratic Republic 11:35 11:39 Landed
LH 9718 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany12:30 On Time
LH 772 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 13:40 13:42 034 Landed
LH 744 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 13:50 13:51 036 Landed
LH 9735 Bandar Seri Begawan - Brunei Intl., Brunei Darussalam 15:45 16:01 Landed
LH 9731 Kathmandu - Tribhuvan, Nepal 18:10 18:35 Landed
LH 9727 Phnom-Penh, Cambodia 19:55 19:47 Landed
LH 9757 Surat Thani, Thailand 20:25 20:28 Landed
LH 9743 Kuala Lumpur Intl. Airport (Sepang), Malaysia 21:30 21:16 Landed
LH 9725 Yangon/Rangoon, Union Of Myanmar 21:35 21:35 Landed
LH 9753 Chiang Rai, Thailand 21:40 21:36 Landed
LH 773 Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam 21:55 21:54 055 Landed
LH 9747 Phuket, Thailand 22:05 On Time
LH 9751 Chiang Mai, Thailand 22:10 22:05 Landed
LH 9755 Hat Yai, Thailand 22:30 22:22 Landed
LH 745 Manila - Ninoy Aquino International, Philippines 22:40 22:24 054 landed
LH 9721 Sydney - Kingsford Smith Intl., Australia 22:55 23:00 Landed
LH 9723 Taipei - Chiang Kai Shek, Taiwan, Republic of China 22:55 22:43 landed
LH 9714 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 06:45+1* 06:22+1* Landed
Need to say more?
(In Chicago there are more LH flights with their UA-ally)
Fons
But that is long time ago. That was in the time SN was flying to BKK.
Actually its best buddies are UA and LH.
They buy 747 from UA and LH makes BKK one of its most important business hubs.
Look @ the LH-Arrivals in BKK - Bangkok International, Thailand
Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 00:00
Flight From Sched Expected Gate Status
LH 9759 Brisbane International, Australia05:00 On Time
LH 9714 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany06:45 06:29 Landed
LH 9749 Penang - International, Malaysia 09:20 09:25 Landed
LH 9733 Vientiane, Lao People's Democratic Republic 11:35 11:39 Landed
LH 9718 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany12:30 On Time
LH 772 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 13:40 13:42 034 Landed
LH 744 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 13:50 13:51 036 Landed
LH 9735 Bandar Seri Begawan - Brunei Intl., Brunei Darussalam 15:45 16:01 Landed
LH 9731 Kathmandu - Tribhuvan, Nepal 18:10 18:35 Landed
LH 9727 Phnom-Penh, Cambodia 19:55 19:47 Landed
LH 9757 Surat Thani, Thailand 20:25 20:28 Landed
LH 9743 Kuala Lumpur Intl. Airport (Sepang), Malaysia 21:30 21:16 Landed
LH 9725 Yangon/Rangoon, Union Of Myanmar 21:35 21:35 Landed
LH 9753 Chiang Rai, Thailand 21:40 21:36 Landed
LH 773 Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam 21:55 21:54 055 Landed
LH 9747 Phuket, Thailand 22:05 On Time
LH 9751 Chiang Mai, Thailand 22:10 22:05 Landed
LH 9755 Hat Yai, Thailand 22:30 22:22 Landed
LH 745 Manila - Ninoy Aquino International, Philippines 22:40 22:24 054 landed
LH 9721 Sydney - Kingsford Smith Intl., Australia 22:55 23:00 Landed
LH 9723 Taipei - Chiang Kai Shek, Taiwan, Republic of China 22:55 22:43 landed
LH 9714 Frankfurt/Main International, Germany 06:45+1* 06:22+1* Landed
Need to say more?
(In Chicago there are more LH flights with their UA-ally)
Fons
Re: Who are TG's best friends?
The Sabena flights to Bangkok and Phuket were actually operated by Sobelair.SN30952 wrote:That was in the time SN was flying to BKK.
André
ex Sabena #26567
ex Sabena #26567
SN 270 series to BKK were flown in 707 and later in DC10
BRU- Bangkok and Phuket in the 9ties was indeed SLR in 767
But SN 270 series were flown in 707 and later in DC10.
SN had traffic rights between DXB (UAE)-BOM-BKK-KUL; BKK-SIN; BKK-JKT; BKK-MNL and BKK TYO.
But who remembers that? Am I getting old, so old that my age-pairs haven't Internet?
BTW, I lately told some people I once flew from DKR to MVD and from BUE(EZE) to SCL on a SN B707 mixed cargo.... They said I was lying: there never was such a thing, they said...
But I remember very well: in BUE there was curefew by the generals, and when I once was in SCL, tanks shot at the presidential palace.
And on one of the last flights BRU BUE I sold all the seat and cargo to the cast and crew of the Holiday on Ice show... One year later the show was flown by British Caledonian out of LGW. That was a DC10.
Fons
But SN 270 series were flown in 707 and later in DC10.
SN had traffic rights between DXB (UAE)-BOM-BKK-KUL; BKK-SIN; BKK-JKT; BKK-MNL and BKK TYO.
But who remembers that? Am I getting old, so old that my age-pairs haven't Internet?
BTW, I lately told some people I once flew from DKR to MVD and from BUE(EZE) to SCL on a SN B707 mixed cargo.... They said I was lying: there never was such a thing, they said...
But I remember very well: in BUE there was curefew by the generals, and when I once was in SCL, tanks shot at the presidential palace.
And on one of the last flights BRU BUE I sold all the seat and cargo to the cast and crew of the Holiday on Ice show... One year later the show was flown by British Caledonian out of LGW. That was a DC10.
Fons
That is exactly why I wonder: what are LH's plans in SE Asia.sn26567 wrote:But only three planes are actually LH. The other are codeshares!
The codeshares are tributary to LH's in and out traffic flux.
Imagine LH is delivering a full load to the codesharer an a particular destination. Lets say between BKK and PNH. What will withhold LH from flying non-stop to that destination. That is what happened with SHA. First LH delivered to HKG or PEK, now it Non-Stop to SHA.
Also in other words: in alliance the strongest ally always wins...
LH is pushing its TG ally so hard, that it has to invest in fleet expansion in order to survive (before it die). LH is pushing one ally to buy aircraft from another ally... LH-UA-TG.
With this (over)capacities TG will have to go lower to fill up, leaving to LH the higher yield, that why they have a younger fleet, there is no other explanation...
Fons
Re: SN 270 series to BKK were flown in 707 and later in DC10
I remember that, from the dark parts of my memory. But I am even getting older, with an SN number smaller than yoursSN30952 wrote:SN had traffic rights between DXB (UAE)-BOM-BKK-KUL; BKK-SIN; BKK-JKT; BKK-MNL and BKK TYO.
But who remembers that? Am I getting old, so old that my age-pairs haven't Internet?
. Nevertheless a fan of Internet 
André
ex Sabena #26567
ex Sabena #26567
Never thought LH could have suvch a hidden agenda, but now that you tell us, indeed...SN30952 wrote:With this (over)capacities TG will have to go lower to fill up, leaving to LH the higher yield, that why they have a younger fleet, there is no other explanation...
It's the bulldozer policy that leaves no prisoners behind...
André
ex Sabena #26567
ex Sabena #26567
Lufthansa launches local-language Asian websites
Lufthansa launches local-language Asian websites using Amadeus API.
Lufthansa today announced that it is increasing its online presence in Asia with the help of Amadeus API technology to launch six new local-language websites within August 2003.
Lufthansa's newly designed homepage www.lufthansa-asiapacific.com provides links to 13 Lufthansa websites in Asia & Pacific and to more than 80 countries worldwide.
Amadeus API technology will be used for Lufthansa's local sites in China, Hong Kong, India, Korea, Singapore and Thailand, allowing Lufthansa customers to make online bookings with speed.
Amadeus API (Application Programme Interface) is one, of a portfolio of Amadeus online travel booking solutions. It allows customers to develop their own Internet Booking Engine and link it to the Amadeus system. Acting like a two-way translation system, it allows applications written in modern programming languages and using XML to communicate seamlessly with the Amadeus global travel reservations system, via a TCP/IP connection. An alternative solution is Planitgo, which provides customised web reservation pages, and a multilingual Internet Booking Engine hosted by Amadeus e-Travel, directly connected to the Amadeus GDS.
Lufthansa today announced that it is increasing its online presence in Asia with the help of Amadeus API technology to launch six new local-language websites within August 2003.
Lufthansa's newly designed homepage www.lufthansa-asiapacific.com provides links to 13 Lufthansa websites in Asia & Pacific and to more than 80 countries worldwide.
Amadeus API technology will be used for Lufthansa's local sites in China, Hong Kong, India, Korea, Singapore and Thailand, allowing Lufthansa customers to make online bookings with speed.
Amadeus API (Application Programme Interface) is one, of a portfolio of Amadeus online travel booking solutions. It allows customers to develop their own Internet Booking Engine and link it to the Amadeus system. Acting like a two-way translation system, it allows applications written in modern programming languages and using XML to communicate seamlessly with the Amadeus global travel reservations system, via a TCP/IP connection. An alternative solution is Planitgo, which provides customised web reservation pages, and a multilingual Internet Booking Engine hosted by Amadeus e-Travel, directly connected to the Amadeus GDS.
Lufthansa is considerably increasing its offer to Asia.
Lufthansa is considerably increasing its offer of services to Asia.
Meanwhile the number of the frequencies from Frankfurt to Beijing was increased by 40 percent. As of 12 September, instead of the smaller Airbus A340, the route will be served by a Boeing 747, so that the seat capacity of the aircraft will also increase.
With three weekly flights from Munich to Shanghai, as of 2 September, Lufthansa will also extend another important part of its Asia program.
The Frankfurt - Beijing service departs daily at 17.25 hrs.
The return flight from Beijing arrives in Frankfurt at 14.30 hrs.
The Airbus A 340 from Munich to Shanghai departs on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays at 21.05 hrs.
The return flight arrives in Munich at 5.40 hrs.
Meanwhile the number of the frequencies from Frankfurt to Beijing was increased by 40 percent. As of 12 September, instead of the smaller Airbus A340, the route will be served by a Boeing 747, so that the seat capacity of the aircraft will also increase.
With three weekly flights from Munich to Shanghai, as of 2 September, Lufthansa will also extend another important part of its Asia program.
The Frankfurt - Beijing service departs daily at 17.25 hrs.
The return flight from Beijing arrives in Frankfurt at 14.30 hrs.
The Airbus A 340 from Munich to Shanghai departs on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays at 21.05 hrs.
The return flight arrives in Munich at 5.40 hrs.
This thread seems to be a dialogue between Sabeniens
I just posted a news item from AFP reproduced in today's La Libre Belgique showing that LH was back in the black figures, when most airlines are still fighting recession and in the red.
They had taken strong measures against SARS (grounding of 70 planes, reduction of wages, part-time week for everybody), and this strategy shows to be successful faster than for anyone else.
As you said once, Fons, LH will be among the strongest and one of the happy few survivors...
I just posted a news item from AFP reproduced in today's La Libre Belgique showing that LH was back in the black figures, when most airlines are still fighting recession and in the red.
They had taken strong measures against SARS (grounding of 70 planes, reduction of wages, part-time week for everybody), and this strategy shows to be successful faster than for anyone else.
As you said once, Fons, LH will be among the strongest and one of the happy few survivors...
André
ex Sabena #26567
ex Sabena #26567
For Sabeniens only?
Seems so, Andre.
But for many airline-watchers LH is not a thrilling experience.
Nothing very spectacular will happen.
But LH is an example of a strategy that starts with in the first line: Make no mistake....
Watch what LH does, its proactive and preemptive ( In German preemptive = Vorkaufs !)
Only Sabeniens know by experience where the absence of this can lead an airline...
But for many airline-watchers LH is not a thrilling experience.
Nothing very spectacular will happen.
But LH is an example of a strategy that starts with in the first line: Make no mistake....
Watch what LH does, its proactive and preemptive ( In German preemptive = Vorkaufs !)
Only Sabeniens know by experience where the absence of this can lead an airline...
LH Cargo MD11-F: WOW cargo alliance unveils special livery
WOW cargo alliance, encompassing Japan Airlines Cargo, Lufthansa Cargo, SAS Cargo and Singapore Airlines Cargo, unveiled the first aircraft in WOW livery, a Lufthansa Cargo MD-11F, Friday at Frankfurt Airport.
It was unclear if or when other carriers will follow suit.
Executives of the member airlines declared that the alliance dating to April 2000 now is entrenched successfully as the biggest air cargo partnership with a 20% market share.
The grouping in Sept. will inaugurate an exclusive common terminal in Cargo City North at Frankfurt to handle alliance shipments.
The partners have agreed on unified IT support and common quality, service and handling standards in order to guarantee the uniformity and reliability of their services.
No candidates for expanding WOW are on the horizon currently.
It was unclear if or when other carriers will follow suit.
Executives of the member airlines declared that the alliance dating to April 2000 now is entrenched successfully as the biggest air cargo partnership with a 20% market share.
The grouping in Sept. will inaugurate an exclusive common terminal in Cargo City North at Frankfurt to handle alliance shipments.
The partners have agreed on unified IT support and common quality, service and handling standards in order to guarantee the uniformity and reliability of their services.
No candidates for expanding WOW are on the horizon currently.
The last flt SN BRU-BKK
The last flight were in coop with THAI. MD11.777 wrote:In 1972 I have flown to BKK with a Sabena 707 and in 1976 with a DC-10 from Sabena, and can confirme these destion of Sabena.
Unfortunately I had to be on the utmost last flight a BRU-BKK.
The tractor was TG but the fltno SN.
This is unusual, as most last flights were into BRU!
Fons
Wonder what WOW means?
WOW is not an abbreviation, it stands for the alliance's values: "Dynamism", "Innovation" and "Vitality".
An enthusiastic "WOW" is the customer response that the alliance aims to elicit with its services and quality.
And LH is the biggest IATA cargo airline...
An enthusiastic "WOW" is the customer response that the alliance aims to elicit with its services and quality.
And LH is the biggest IATA cargo airline...
Lufthansa Systems is targeting smaller carriers and Regional
Lufthansa Systems is targeting smaller carriers and Regionals with a new-generation "modularized" version of its integrated MultiHost solution.
The new offering enhances its IT services portfolio to meet shifting demands and new business models within airlines and aviation-related industries.
LSY's comprehensive MultiHost application, tailored mainly to the needs of mainline network carriers, includes an overview of current bookings and promises "optimal handling of passenger data" by linking with global distribution systems such as Galileo and Amadeus. That version has been implemented as a total solution by 40 airlines.
All applications and IT services are provided via the AirSP application service provider system that allows different airlines to use the same applications running on the same hardware via the Internet.
The new offering enhances its IT services portfolio to meet shifting demands and new business models within airlines and aviation-related industries.
LSY's comprehensive MultiHost application, tailored mainly to the needs of mainline network carriers, includes an overview of current bookings and promises "optimal handling of passenger data" by linking with global distribution systems such as Galileo and Amadeus. That version has been implemented as a total solution by 40 airlines.
All applications and IT services are provided via the AirSP application service provider system that allows different airlines to use the same applications running on the same hardware via the Internet.