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25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
What I don't get is why they cancel the flights... why don't they just say: hand luggage only?
maybe it's because I don't know that awful lot about aviation
or I just want my flight tomorrow at 7am to fly...
maybe it's because I don't know that awful lot about aviation
or I just want my flight tomorrow at 7am to fly...
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
My cargos are suppose to fly ET last Thursday to HKG but I see there’s no cargo arrival/departure information at all from the airport website. Not sure if all are cancelled or what.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
I'd guess the reason is because pushback drivers and other ramp staff are also on strike. Hence, no boarding bridge moving, no stairs, no electrical power, no redcap with a load sheet etc. etc.
It's not only the loaders, it's pretty much all the ramp staff who are on strike.
It's not only the loaders, it's pretty much all the ramp staff who are on strike.
Thomas
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
What about the airlines that usually use Aviapartner but aren't cancelling their flights? Are they using hand luggage only? I see ANA is one of the airlines handled by Aviapartner, but I can't imagine travelling to Japan with hand luggage only...
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
I certainly hope soEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!sean1982 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 11:57I certainly hope soEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
HeyEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 12:39Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!
I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Agreed. Lumumba has multiple times made personal comments that are totally uncalled for.Established02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 12:39Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Even if it's a reaction: comments about people that are striking are allowed while comments about other forum-members are not.lumumba wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 12:49HeyEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 12:39Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!
I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
When you strike till a company goes bankrupt you should accept there might be consequences. If you play with fire you might get burned! It would make complete sense for a new employer to take the work-history of candidates into account, and instigating and/or furthering this disproportionate strike doesn't look good on someone's resume.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.sean1982 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 11:57I certainly hope soEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
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Viktor
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!Vic Diesel wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 15:12Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.sean1982 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 11:57I certainly hope soEstablished02 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
Best regards,
Viktor
(Budapest-born, Vienna-raised, Brussels-based)
Viktor
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
In my opinion the only responsibility for the demise here is with the management.Vic Diesel wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 15:45I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Not all, but most indeed. However contrary to an office job, in aviation there is not a lot you can do on your own. Not to forget you will need multiple specialized people to get the plane ready to leave.lumumba wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 15:40But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!Vic Diesel wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 15:12Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Contrary to what you believe, the grieve is widespread and therefore the action is well supported.Vic Diesel wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018, 15:45I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport
Unlike the reports might suggest, the Cargo department is on strike also. But, as ever, well overlooked as there is limited impact for the general public.
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