Belgian airforce Training areas

[Scratch]

Hello Guys

Just wondering if anyone of you know where the Training areas are for BFT

With Training areas i mean the airspace where they do for example "stall recovery ect........... i know for vance in the states they look like this

http://www.t6driver.com/gouge/VanceT-6SmartCard.pdf

Thankx for all the info you guys can give me

[Godfather]

TRA's and TSA charts

http://www.ivao.be/files/charts/Enroute ... C%2006.pdf

Danger, restricted and prohibited area's

http://www.ivao.be/files/charts/Enroute ... C%2005.pdf

[PiperPA19]

link to the belgian AIP: http://www.belgocontrol.be/belgoweb2/op ... ge=2.3.3.1

you have to register, but it's free.

The above charts are there (official version), as well as other charts (military routes), and airspace description in lat/long.

[kelly_jane24]

I am not familiar with the training areas of Belgium but you can searched in wikipedia.org I am sure that he will get definite help from there.

[boul]

Gliders flying in the Ardens are limited to a maximum altitude of 4500 ft QNH, except during the WE.
It's hard to beleive but the only place where you meet military traffic is ... yes exactly in that tiny layer !!
They prefer flying there because (as I've been told by a F16 pilot) they are out of controlled airspace so they can do what they like to... I can assure you it's a very "strange" feeling when you hear them arriving in your vicinity without seeing them except at the very last moment when they are passing at some 3 or 400 ft below you. Everybody feel it would be much safer the gliders be allowed flying higher, but this is not military logic