Air Belgium in 2020

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by TLspotting » 04 Feb 2020, 16:57

Desert Rat wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 14:15
TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 09:59
Desert Rat wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 09:37
I think he means Brussels Airport.
Who?
What who?
What Sean said...patate
My name is not Wikipedia :lol:
737MAX wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 15:37

Looks like Air Belgium found a market that attracts many french speakers from BE & France. CRL makes more sense than BRU for these destinations (IMHO). I hope it will remain a success in the long term!
Of course they did, it was better to attract from the French market, as border is not that far away, but at the mean time it attracts other markets, Belgian, Dutch, German, Luxembourgish (and many more!).

I can have the same opinion than you as CRL and all the destinations are considered as "leisure" or "holiday"..

BRU is more for business, with routes to New York, Washington, Beijing, HK...
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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by 737MAX » 04 Feb 2020, 18:05

TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 16:57


Of course they did, it was better to attract from the French market, as border is not that far away, but at the mean time it attracts other markets, Belgian, Dutch, German, Luxembourgish (and many more!).
I'd be curious to read numbers about the origin of their passengers to those destinations!
TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 16:57
I can have the same opinion than you as CRL and all the destinations are considered as "leisure" or "holiday"..

BRU is more for business, with routes to New York, Washington, Beijing, HK...
Not sure TUI would agree with you on this ;)
Surely CRL is great for north of France region + for Wallons who obviously love those holiday destinations.

It seems to be a missed opportunity for TUI as well!

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by Atlantis » 04 Feb 2020, 19:49

TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 16:57
Desert Rat wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 14:15
TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 09:59


Who?
What who?
What Sean said...patate
My name is not Wikipedia :lol:
737MAX wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 15:37

Looks like Air Belgium found a market that attracts many french speakers from BE & France. CRL makes more sense than BRU for these destinations (IMHO). I hope it will remain a success in the long term!
Of course they did, it was better to attract from the French market, as border is not that far away, but at the mean time it attracts other markets, Belgian, Dutch, German, Luxembourgish (and many more!).

I can have the same opinion than you as CRL and all the destinations are considered as "leisure" or "holiday"..

BRU is more for business, with routes to New York, Washington, Beijing, HK...
Why are you so sure regarding the origin of the pax? Especially when you wrote "(and many more)"

For this quote you need to know the figures, for this you need to know the inside news. I have huge doubts that you have this info.

I think, after analysing your post, that a lot of it is based on speculation. Like we say in Flemish: met een korreltje zout

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by jan_olieslagers » 04 Feb 2020, 20:04

Like we say in Flemish: met een korreltje zout
Or, in a more universal language, to avoid cultural struggles :) : "cum grano salis" - if I didn't miss the dative of the purpose or whatever they call it... As I understand, the English say "with a pinch of salt", too.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by JOVAN » 04 Feb 2020, 20:31

Atlantis wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 19:49
TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 16:57
Desert Rat wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 14:15

What who?
What Sean said...patate
My name is not Wikipedia :lol:
737MAX wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 15:37

Looks like Air Belgium found a market that attracts many french speakers from BE & France. CRL makes more sense than BRU for these destinations (IMHO). I hope it will remain a success in the long term!
Of course they did, it was better to attract from the French market, as border is not that far away, but at the mean time it attracts other markets, Belgian, Dutch, German, Luxembourgish (and many more!).

I can have the same opinion than you as CRL and all the destinations are considered as "leisure" or "holiday"..

BRU is more for business, with routes to New York, Washington, Beijing, HK...
Why are you so sure regarding the origin of the max? Especially when you wrote "(and many more)"

For this quote you need to know the figures, for this you need to know the inside news. I have huge doubts that you have this info.

I think, after analysing your post, that a lot of it is based on speculation. Like we say in Flemish: met een korreltje zout
Both BRU and CRL already attract a lot of PAX from neighbouring countries.

If AirBelgium and TUIfly continue with regular flights and correctly priced tickets, and good planes, they will attract more PAX .

And indeed there are for instance already a lot of Mexicans, Cubans using TUIfly for the good product and service offered.

On my last flight from CUN I noticed quite a lot of Eastern Europeans,and Italians.

Potential is there. Better marketing from Belgium airlines & Airports would certainly increase foreign PAX for all of them.
They are still too modest.

So far for the korrel zout.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by Atlantis » 04 Feb 2020, 21:41

JOVAN wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 20:31
Atlantis wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 19:49
TLspotting wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 16:57


My name is not Wikipedia :lol:



Of course they did, it was better to attract from the French market, as border is not that far away, but at the mean time it attracts other markets, Belgian, Dutch, German, Luxembourgish (and many more!).

I can have the same opinion than you as CRL and all the destinations are considered as "leisure" or "holiday"..

BRU is more for business, with routes to New York, Washington, Beijing, HK...
Why are you so sure regarding the origin of the max? Especially when you wrote "(and many more)"

For this quote you need to know the figures, for this you need to know the inside news. I have huge doubts that you have this info.

I think, after analysing your post, that a lot of it is based on speculation. Like we say in Flemish: met een korreltje zout
Both BRU and CRL already attract a lot of PAX from neighbouring countries.

If AirBelgium and TUIfly continue with regular flights and correctly priced tickets, and good planes, they will attract more PAX .

And indeed there are for instance already a lot of Mexicans, Cubans using TUIfly for the good product and service offered.

On my last flight from CUN I noticed quite a lot of Eastern Europeans,and Italians.

Potential is there. Better marketing from Belgium airlines & Airports would certainly increase foreign PAX for all of them.
They are still too modest.

So far for the korrel zout.
Correct, TUI fly for sure had to foreseen this. They offer Mauritius as a destination but are using other airlines to fly to it. If Air Belgium will chose this as their next destination we will see how it will perform.

Honestly, I think that TUIfly is not that happy with this success. They could have done it already years ago. But their ambition on long haul is not that huge.

Let's say that they rely more on what they know instead of trying

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by TLspotting » 13 Feb 2020, 21:01

Air Belgium is to announce the new destination in end February, however, the airline denies that it will be Mauritius.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by JOVAN » 13 Feb 2020, 22:50

TLspotting wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:01
Air Belgium is to announce the new destination in end February, however, the airline denies that it will be Mauritius.
My guess: Réunion

Réunion, j'aime ton nom

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by cathay belgium » 13 Feb 2020, 23:05

SXM ???

CXB
New types flown 2020 : A321neo
New types planned : B781,PC12

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by JOVAN » 13 Feb 2020, 23:35

JOVAN wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 22:50
TLspotting wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:01
Air Belgium is to announce the new destination in end February, however, the airline denies that it will be Mauritius.
My guess: Réunion

Réunion, j'aime ton nom
Although Mauritius airports attract 3,7 mio PAX versus 2,4 PAX for St. Denis Réunion

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by 737MAX » 14 Feb 2020, 10:05

They seem to be doing good on the french speaking market destinations. Continuing in the same direction would make sense from CRL. Many of their pax probably love avoiding ORY (which is horrible for all those who live north of Paris).

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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by DIBO » 23 Feb 2020, 21:36

In the meantime, busy Air Bees :)
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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by TLspotting » 24 Feb 2020, 22:04

DIBO wrote:
23 Feb 2020, 21:36
In the meantime, busy Air Bees :)
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Until end October ;)
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Re: Air Belgium in 2020

Post by TLspotting » 26 Feb 2020, 23:35

TLspotting wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 21:01
Air Belgium is to announce the new destination in end February, however, the airline denies that it will be Mauritius.
It is 26 February 2020, so normally tomorrow, on Friday or on Saturday the new destination should be announced. I don't really know what it is, it will be a surprise (if it is not Mauritius...).

OO-ABE went already AOG at Warsaw, after some maintenance at Brussels yesterday.
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