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Jordanië want Belgian F-16's to buy The Jordanies authorities has an intention explanation signed around the purchase of an about twenty Belgian and Dutch F-16's. . This explanation makes the possible the purchase negotiations to start around modernized F-16's, that at most recent NATO-standards satisfy. During a visit of minister André Flahaut single days ago gifts the Jordaniërs all token of their interest in the fights apparatuses. When both parties reach an agreement, will the sale in its entirety the defense budget thicken.

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VG wrote:Jordanië want Belgian F-16's to buy The Jordanies authorities has an intention explanation signed around the purchase of an about twenty Belgian and Dutch F-16's. . This explanation makes the possible the purchase negotiations to start around modernized F-16's, that at most recent NATO-standards satisfy. During a visit of minister André Flahaut single days ago gifts the Jordaniërs all token of their interest in the fights apparatuses. When both parties reach an agreement, will the sale in its entirety the defense budget thicken.
and now in understandable English please ...
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Als Je Toch Alles Beter Kan Hier:

De Jordaanse overheid heeft een intentieverklaring ondertekend rond de aankoop van een twintigtal Belgische en Nederlandse F-16's.
Deze verklaring maakt het mogelijk de aankooponderhandelingen te starten rond gemoderniseerde F-16's, die aan de recentste NAVO-standaarden voldoen. Tijdens een bezoek van minister André Flahaut enkele dagen geleden gaven de Jordaniërs al blijk van hun interesse in de gevechtstoestellen.
Indien beide partijen een akkoord bereiken, zal de verkoopsom integraal het Defensiebudget aandikken.

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Thanks for the dutch translation !! I can understand now... because I thought that Belgian F16's wanted to buy the Jordanian authorities :lol: Amazing thing :roll:

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VG wrote:De Jordaanse overheid heeft een intentieverklaring ondertekend rond de aankoop van een twintigtal Belgische en Nederlandse F-16's.
Deze verklaring maakt het mogelijk de aankooponderhandelingen te starten rond gemoderniseerde F-16's, die aan de recentste NAVO-standaarden voldoen. Tijdens een bezoek van minister André Flahaut enkele dagen geleden gaven de Jordaniërs al blijk van hun interesse in de gevechtstoestellen.
Indien beide partijen een akkoord bereiken, zal de verkoopsom integraal het Defensiebudget aandikken.
The Jordan governement has signed a declaration of intention to buy about 20 Belgian and Dutch F-16's. This declaration made it possible to start salesnegotiations on recently updated F-16's, which meet the most recent NAVO-standards. During the visit of the Minister of Defence (André Flahaut) a few days ago, the Jordaniens clearly showed their interest in the combataircraft. If both sides are to reach an agreement, the entire salesprice will go to the Budget for Defence.
VG wrote:Jordanië want Belgian F-16's to buy The Jordanies authorities ...
loutri666 wrote:Thanks for the dutch translation !! I can understand now... because I thought that Belgian F16's wanted to buy the Jordanian authorities :lol: Amazing thing :roll:
Would be very remarkable indeed :lol:
VG wrote:Als Je Toch Alles Beter Kan Hier:
Olalala, deze morgen met het verkeerde been uit bed gestapt ? Amai ...
Was nochtans niet aanvallend bedoeld !

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Here is the babelfish translation Dutch to English:

The Jordanian government has signed an intention declaration around purchase of about twenty Belgian and Dutch F-16's. this declaration makes it the purchase negotiations to possibly start around modernised F-16's, which satisfy most recent Navo-standaarden to. During a visit of minister André Flahaut some days suffered showed already their interest in the fighting couples to the jordanians. If both parties reach an agreement, the sale sum will thicken integratedly the defence budget.

Just for fun, I took Andries' translation, and ran it through babelfish English to Japanese and back to English.

As for Jordanian governement you signed to the declaration of the intention which Belgium approximately buys F-16's of 20 and Holland. This declaration made that sale negotiation of the recent renewal end F-16's which meets to recent NATO standard is begun possible. Defense (Andre Flahaut) small-numbered day ago, the Jordanian person showed their interests of the warplane clearly during the visit of the minister of state. If both sides should reach to agreement, entire salesprice goes to the budget for defending.

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VG wrote:Als Je Toch Alles Beter Kan Hier:
Olalala, deze morgen met het verkeerde been uit bed gestapt ? Amai ...
Was nochtans niet aanvallend bedoeld !

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Does this concern some surplus MLU F16's or does the airforce only have older not update F16's in storage?

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It will take a (huge) lot more algorithm to make IT translators able to translate the "meaning" instead of translating only words :-) :-) "-)

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Does anybody now wich way the Belgian Defence will go in 10 years when the F16's will get near the end of their life? JSF, Eurofighter, Rafaele?

Maybe they should keep the money and start a savings account, for future plane purchases :wink:
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Unmanned so-called "drones" with ULM rotax engines!

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Yeetz!

LOL

I dont think Belgian F-16 will be sold to any country with the present Minister at his louzy chair in Brussel. Every time it's the same explanation...they are scared they would be used in war... :roll: .and in the meanwile Dutch F-16's sell like sweet breads.

My opinion of the Belgian future is that they will just keep those F-16's like they are keeping theis Seaking's and by the year 2020 they will maybe 10 or 20 examples in good condition and the rest spread everywhere around the country in storage ( or pieces ) :( .


Hope it doesn't turn out that way...

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an-148 wrote:It will take a (huge) lot more algorithm to make IT translators able to translate the "meaning" instead of translating only words :-) :-) "-)
No offense, but babelfish actually produced a better translation than VG.

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AirSmetten wrote:My opinion of the Belgian future is that they will just keep those F-16's like they are keeping theis Seaking's and by the year 2020 they will maybe 10 or 20 examples in good condition and the rest spread everywhere around the country in storage ( or pieces ) :( .
Actually, the Seakings will be replaced by NH90's in a few years.
Maybe there's hope after all... :wink:

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The Russians should make NATO-compatible versions of their jets, would be cheaper to buy.

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Hi

man o man, looks like a translation course :D

If you are uncertain about your translation, you can always search for an article about your topic and copy it to your post. less effort to translate and probably less faults. this said, this is what I found on www.f-16.net about this topic, some old news in fact.

"April 20, 2006 (by Lieven Dewitte) - Jordan signed a letter of Intent (LoI) for the acquisition of 22 F-16 MLUs, the Belgian Ministry of Defence announced today. The deal is for 8 Dutch and 14 Belgian F-16 MLUs.

The Letter of Intent was signed today in Amman by a member of the Jordan Ministry of Defence, the Dutch Secretary of Defence, Cees Van der Knaap, and the chief of Material Resources from the Belgian military, Lt. General de Winter.

The deal is for 8 Dutch (5 F-16AM and 3 F-16BM) and 14 Belgian F-16 MLUs (12 F-16AM and 2 F-16BM).

The Belgian minister of Defence, André Flahaut, welcomed the news as the revenues from the sale will go directly into the defence budget.

The Dutch air force has already sold three updated F-16Bs (two seaters) to Jordan at the end of last year, as well as 18 F-16s to Chile. With this second sale of F-16s to Jordan (5 F-16AM and 3 F-16BM aircraft), the RNLAF has sold all of its 29 excess F-16s. This leaves the RNLAF with 108 operational F-16s.

Note: the serials of the Belgian aircraft are #FA-58, #FA-60, #FA-61, #FA-65, #FA-66, #FA-73, #FA-74, #FA-75, #FA-76, #FA-78, #FA-88, #FA-90 and #FB-01, #FB-08.
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:arrow: about the belgium keeping F-16's topic: this is how I see it :
I think Belgium will try to keep upgrading them untill they can do no more and will end up with 20 planes in good conditon, like AirSmetten said. But 20 planes isn't enough so what they will do then is buying some second-hand F-16's from the Dutch, who will by then have the wonderfull F-35 JSF :evil: and finally, the Belgian F-16 will end up like the Fouga Magister: IT KEEPS ON FLYING :!: :twisted:

greetings,

Pietn

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Thx for the info Pietn, this deal comes just in time to help pay for the second hand C130 I think :roll:

And concerning the use of the F16 in the belgian airforce I think that they are already operating close to the minimum number, this because belgium has commited itself to the NATO to have at least 1-2 Squadron's Combat ready to deploy within a certain period of time. Then you still need some planes for training, updating, maintenance etc...
Also the Dutch governement isn't sure yet to buy the JSF, the cost already are predicted to be coming close to a new Typhoon or Rafale, this because of develepoment costs and the USAF taking on less numbers due to budgets cuts (speaking about 700-900 planes less)

If the Belgian airforce already decides to keep a manned fighter in frontline service I think it would be F16 block 50/60, gripen (gaining alot of buyers in recent years) and the Rafale(just because of Belgian connections with France), but the amount of planes would ofcourse be rather low

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