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Crash of a South East Airlines Tu-154 in Moscow

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A Tu-154 crashed while attempting an emergency landing at Moscow Domodedovo.

The Russian emergency situations ministry states that the aircraft, with 168 on board including eight crew, was operating from Moscow to Makhachkala, in Dagestan.

It identifies the operator of the tri-jet as Daghestan Airlines (now called South East Airlines).

"As a result of the emergency landing of the Tu-154, two people were killed and another 40 injured," the ministry says. "The exact number of victims is being clarified."

Preliminary information from Domodedovo operator East Line claims that the aircraft had departed Moscow Vnukovo but was returning to the capital after losing power in all three engines.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... oscow.html

3 engines lost!!! How is that possible.... fuel or icing problems?

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andorra-airport wrote: 3 engines lost!!! How is that possible.... fuel or icing problems?
It sounds as a criminal action. :(

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galaxy wrote:It sounds as a criminal action. :(

Why ?

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Seems to be RA-85744 (Yes the one from the Red Devils last month) :o
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In this photo taken on a cell phone by an eyewitness, showing people clambering over the plane at the scene .
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Here the last photo of the RA85744 on airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/photo/South-Ea ... 1805036/L/

Full article :
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =131809488

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Human error 'to blame for Russian plane crash'

A source close to the investigation told the RIA Novosti news agency the crew decided to take off despite two defects on the plane, without elaborating.

The crew possibly forgot to switch on fuel pumps while taking off, allowing air to enter the system, a law enforcement source told the Interfax news agency

"All the specialists agree that probably the reason for what happened was human error," the source told Interfax.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 720c2eb.51

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Dreamflight wrote:Seems to be RA-85744 (Yes the one from the Red Devils last month) :o
Seems somebody at the RTBF reads Lucthzak.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/detai ... id=4640443

As usual we can find some comments from aviation specialists.

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Re: Crash of a Dagestan Airlines Tu-154 in Moscow

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Gate-A1 wrote:
Dreamflight wrote:Seems to be RA-85744 (Yes the one from the Red Devils last month) :o
Seems somebody at the RTBF reads Lucthzak.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/detai ... id=4640443

As usual we can find some comments from aviation specialists.
De Standaard also brought this story. Their reporter was on the plane with the Devils...

Text from: http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail. ... =GRN338UOU
BRUSSEL - Twee doden en acht gewonden: dat is de balans na de noodlanding van een passagiersvliegtuig gisteren in Moskou, nadat alle drie de motoren waren uitgevallen. Het was exact hetzelfde vliegtuig als datgene waarmee de Rode Duivels in Rusland reisden. Onze reporter Ludo Vandewalle, die de reis meemaakte, is helemaal niet verrast door het ongeluk.

Het gecrashte toestel was een in het Sovjet-Unie-tijdperk gebouwde Tu-154 van Dagestan Airlines. Aan boord bevonden zich 168 passagiers en acht bemanningsleden. Bij de noodlanding slipte het van de landingsbaan af en botste tegen enkele gebouwen aan. Het toestel brak in drie stukken.

Op 16 november werd de oorspronkelijke vlucht naar Voronezh afgeleid naar Moskou. Het viel me toen al op dat de piloot niks zei en pas een halfuur voor de landing via het interne communicatiesysteem bekendmaakte dat niet Voronezh, 500 km verder zuidoostwaarts van Moskou, maar de Vnukovo-luchthaven in Moskou de volgende bestemming zou worden.

De spelers reageerden rustig, maar de landing in Moskou verliep absoluut niet vlot. Het vliegtuig maakte eerst een kloppend en daarna een luid scheurend geluid. De piloot moest flink op de rem gaan staan. Het was één van de meest angstaanjagende landingen die we meemaakten. We kwamen met de schrik vrij. We moesten wel in het vliegtuig blijven zitten omdat niet duidelijk was wat er zou gebeuren. Uiteindelijk werd beslist dat we pas de volgende dag zouden doorvliegen. Officieel wegens te veel mist in Voronezh, de uiteindelijke bestemming waar de volgende dag zou worden gevoetbald. Er was in Voronezh slechts 100 meter zicht terwijl voor een vliegtuig van het type Tupolev 900 meter zicht nodig is.

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Die hele reis staat te boek als bijzonder vreemd. Het eten in het vliegtuig was nog minder te eten dan anders. De volgende dag wou de piloot alweer niet opstijgen. Officieel nog altijd wegens de mist, terwijl de Russische nationale ploeg intussen op dezelfde dag wel in hetzelfde Voronezh opsteeg. Pas toen onze bondscoach Georges Leekens dreigde om niet te spelen, kon de Tupolev toch opstijgen. Over die landing herinner ik me niks onregelmatigs.

Maar op de terugreis was het weer prijs. We werden ook bij de terugvlucht in het ongewisse gelaten. Tijdens het wachten stond de bus klaar en vertrok of landde er op het vliegveld van Voronezh geen enkel vliegtuig. Er was totaal geen activiteit op die luchthaven die de Tupolev kon beletten op te stijgen. Ook tijdens de vlucht bleef het de hele tijd stil. Geen welkomstwoord van de piloot zoals gebruikelijk, geen veiligheidsdemonstratie, geen waarschuwing voor het landen en slechts water en fruitsap om te drinken. Je kan de krant erop naslaan, toen schreef ik al: Het was te veel om nog normaal te zijn.
Translation via Google Translate:
BRUSSELS - Two dead and eight wounded: that is the balance after the emergency landing of a passenger plane in Moscow yesterday, when all three engines were inoperative. It was exactly the same plane as that under which the Red Devils traveled in Russia. Our reporter Ludo Vandewalle, who went through the journey, is not surprised by the accident.

The crashed plane was in a Soviet-era built Tu-154 of Dagestan Airlines. On board were 168 passengers and eight crew. In the emergency landing, it slipped off the runway and collided with several buildings. The unit broke into three pieces.

On November 16 the original flight was diverted to Moscow to Voronezh. It struck me even then that the pilot said nothing and only a half hour before landing via the internal communication system that is not announced Voronezh, 500 km further south-east of Moscow, but the Vnukovo airport in Moscow next destination would be.

The players responded quietly, but the landing in Moscow went absolutely smoothly. The aircraft first made a beating and then a loud ripping sound. The pilot was struggling on the brakes. It was one of the scariest landings that we experienced. We came up with a fright. We had to sit on the plane because it was unclear what would happen. Eventually we decided that the next day would fly by. Officially due to too much fog in Voronezh, where the final destination the next day would be football. There was only 100 meters in Voronezh view as a type of airplane Tupolev 900 meters visibility is needed.

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The whole journey is known as particularly strange. The food in the plane was even less food than usual. The next day the pilot wanted to take off again. Officially still because of the fog, while the Russian national team is already on the same day or in Voronezh the same rose. Only when our coach Georges Leekens threatened not to play, the Tupolev was still rising. On the landing I remember nothing irregular.

But on the return trip was made very clear. We were also in the flight left in limbo. While waiting for the bus was ready and departed or landed at the airport of Voronezh no plane. There was no activity at that airport which could prevent the Tupolev to ascend. Also during the flight remained silent the whole time. No welcome from the pilot as usual, no safety demonstration, no warning for the landing and only water and juice to drink. You can consult the newspaper on it, when I wrote: It was too much to still be normal.

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Seems somebody at the RTBF reads Lucthzak.
I would rather say: it seems somebody at RTBF reads Sporza.be. VRT was first to report the news on Saturday night. We compared the pictures at the sports desk, and afterwards, we did check luchtzak for confirmation ;)

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Two engines (#1 and #3) on the Tu-154 failed after 'instability' in fuel supply? See article in flightglobal: http://bit.ly/gzyqbj
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The article in 'De Standaard' gives a nice description of a scrappy airplane (airline)! No safety demonstration ? hardly any news from the pilots ? no speech about arrival ?
dna wrote:
Seems somebody at the RTBF reads Lucthzak.
I would rather say: it seems somebody at RTBF reads Sporza.be. VRT was first to report the news on Saturday night. We compared the pictures at the sports desk, and afterwards, we did check luchtzak for confirmation ;)
Those journalists! Even forgetting about a link back to https://www.aviation24.be ;-)

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luchtzak wrote:The article in 'De Standaard' gives a nice description of a scrappy airplane (airline)! No safety demonstration ? hardly any news from the pilots ? no speech about arrival ?
I think it's especially the airline that is crappy. This is yet another blow to the reputation of the Tu-154, which I think isn't a bad plane at all if it is operated by a good airline en flown by well-trained staff. Just imagine how the general public's perception would be if the Tu-154 would fly where A320s or 737s currently fly, and that these planes would take the Tu154's place in the all the former soviet countries...

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