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It had an impact alright. The 9/11 events had huge impact -don't read me wrong here, please.YYZ727 wrote:For heavens sake, this is not a movie about United airlines... A little more respect is due....I don't know if this is good or bad advertising for United. Everybody knows what happened, so I don't think that this movie is gonna have such a big influence on Uniteds popularity...
Some family members have participated to make the movie as realistic as possible. And if they don't want to see the movie then just don't go.ehamspotter wrote:Hello;
Actually i don't know wath to think about the movie, in Europe, Asia and maybe for some Americans too, i think it is quite "intresting", because the movie is SO realistic,
but for the families from the victims, now they probably already handle a few years with there losts, but maybe with this movie all the memories comes up again and it qiute painfull i think.
)That's a grave thought, Erwin.A318 wrote:Too bad the end will never change (anymore).
This movie is the last chapter in lots of people own book of life.
Respect, Erwin
In my opinion Heroes have the choice, they didn't. Heroes had the choice to go to the French Indochina war or to choose to resist Nazis because there was no conscription for this... People onboard were just in the wrong place at the wrong moment and they did what they could to try to survive, and not to defend their ideas or their country, they were just as unlucky as the people who died in the Twin Towers.They all went like heroes and will always be remembered like heroes.
Stepha380 wrote:In my opinion Heroes have the choice, they didn't. Heroes had the choice to go to the French Indochina war or to choose to resist Nazis because there was no conscription for this... People onboard were just in the wrong place at the wrong moment and they did what they could to try to survive, and not to defend their ideas or their country, they were just as unlucky as the people who died in the Twin Towers.They all went like heroes and will always be remembered like heroes.
Unhappy is the land that is in need of heroes. BERTOLT BRECHT
I know it is an aviation forum, I respect all points of view on these events and I don't try to convince you, just my 2 cents.
Time to grow up.......Stepha380 wrote:Don't take everything for real in the movie, the events depicted are "as might be expected".
The most amazing is how an army that targets its missiles to North Korea when they play with toys are unable to send the closest and fastest military jets to have a look at airplanes that switched off their transponders.
There are so long (not) to take a decision in the movie it is depressive.
Jup, I can agree here. Their invasion in Iraq was also not well prepared...Stepha380 wrote:Don't take everything for real in the movie, the events depicted are "as might be expected".
The most amazing is how an army that targets its missiles to North Korea when they play with toys are unable to send the closest and fastest military jets to have a look at airplanes that switched off their transponders.
There are so long (not) to take a decision in the movie it is depressive.
fftopic: I have no experience using cell phones in a plane. Maybe some of you may heve. I wonder if the above statement makes sence?When you make a cell phone call, the first thing that happens is that your cell phone needs to contact a transponder. Your cell phone has a max transmit power of five watts, three watts is actually the norm. If an aircraft is going five hundred miles an hour, your cell phone will not be able to 1. Contact a tower, 2. Tell the tower who you are, and who your provider is, 3. Tell the tower what mode it wants to communicate with, and 4. Establish that it is in a roaming area before it passes out of a five watt range. This procedure, called an electronic handshake, takes approximately 45 seconds for a cell phone to complete upon initial power up in a roaming area because neither the cell phone or cell transponder knows where that phone is and what mode it uses when it is turned on. At 500 miles an hour, the aircraft will travel three times the range of a cell phone's five watt transmitter before this handshaking can occur. Though it is sometimes possible to connect during takeoff and landing, under the situation that was claimed the calls were impossible
You read my mind, Stepha380? Are you a mindreader?Stepha380 wrote:In my opinion Heroes have the choice, they didn't.... People onboard were just in the wrong place at the wrong moment and they did what they could to try to survive, and not to defend their ideas or their country, they were just as unlucky as the people who died in the Twin Towers.
That is not true. Cell phones will be operable below 10,000 ft depending on location the aircraft is traveling over or near. In the case of flight 93, the aircraft spent it entire flight time in an area of the country thats east of the Mississippi River. For anyone not familiar with the USA, that is the most densly populated area of the country and has the greatest cell phone coverage. With that being the case, the signal should have been and was strong enough below 10,000ft to work.luchtzak wrote:Cell phones indeed don't work inside an aircraft flying above +-1000ft , but didn't the passengers use satellite phones?ElcoB wrote:I have no experience using cell phones in a plane. Maybe some of you may heve. I wonder if the above statement makes sence?
