Ryanair in 2016

[sean1982]

I think this route is a testcase yes. Time will tell

[sn26567]

Today 18th of jan was the inaugural flight from BRU to LCA. Business plus passengers on the LCA flight will receive something that they arent used to from FR

Fast track?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryanair ... -brussels/

[sean1982]

Today 18th of jan was the inaugural flight from BRU to LCA. Business plus passengers on the LCA flight will receive something that they arent used to from FR

Fast track?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryanair ... -brussels/

No, on board service

[b-west]

No, on board service

Like on a real airline?


(I'll let myself out )

[sn26567]

Tweet from FlightRadar24 last night: "Ryanair flight FR2224 (RIX-STN) finally en route to London - passengers upset, 13h+ delay, no help".

Aircraft was EI-EPF. FR2224 normally flies from TLL to STN. I guess it was diverted to RIX due to weather circumstances.

[Passenger]

Superb onboard announcement: "...The captain cannot take off - we have ice on the wings and we don't want to die..."

[Stij]

Superb onboard announcement: "...The captain cannot take off - we have ice on the wings and we don't want to die..."

But the truth!

Although, It's not the captain who can't take-off, it's the plane! He/she can take-off whenever he / she wants!

More on airplane English?



Cheers,

Stij

[sean1982]

I invite you to spend a few hours with some angry glaswegians on board and then see what you will tell them. Im not saying that she said the right thing, but passengers are extremely dimissive. After all, why would a bit of ice on the wings stop the plane from taking off right?

Hundreds of times i've tried to explain things to passengers, hundreds of times the answer was: yeah sure, excuses .... Exactly the same reaction of the passengers in the video really

If I would have been her, I would have forced the captain to make an announcement

[Passenger]

I invite you to spend a few hours with some angry glaswegians on board and then see what you will tell them. Im not saying that she said the right thing, but passengers are extremely dimissive. After all, why would a bit of ice on the wings stop the plane from taking off right?

Hundreds of times i've tried to explain things to passengers, hundreds of times the answer was: yeah sure, excuses .... Exactly the same reaction of the passengers in the video really

Yep, those bloody passengers. Extremely dimissive, angry, ennoying. Dublin should find a way to get rid of them. Perhaps change from pax airliner into cargo transporter? Pallets and parcels usually don't protest.

No, seriously Sean, have you seen the video? People are not complaining about the ice. People are laughing with the remark "we don't want to die". I've heard a zillion of onboard announcements, and for sure: I never heard something like that. Even in Russia and in New Zealand, they've noticed it:

https://www.rt.com/news/329286-ryanair- ... ement-die/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-tr ... yed-flight

[sean1982]

I dont really care where it is picked up as press agencies share here there and everywhere and newspapers seem to be copy and paste these days.

Please dont twist my words. I didnt say anything untowards against passengers. I just said that when things go wrong, that they are really dismissive about the reason. Again, what she said is most definatly wrong and I dont think she will be touching a PA system anytime soon, but she is right FR is very adamant about teaching its Cabin crew on the effects of icing on the airframe and the importance to check on it. The Dryden crash is often used as a case study for it.

[Inquirer]

More on airplane English?



Cheers,

Stij

Very recognizable indeed.

Never gave much consideration the language used by airlines in their standard announcements, but indeed, he's right when you think of it: much of it is nonsensical blabla. But at least it sounds professional and reassuring.

BTW_ doesn't ryanair have standard text books for their crew to use in cases like these?
Leaving them improvise doesn't see professional and occasionally leads to this PR disaster.

[sean1982]

There are standard pa's for a lot of things, but you cant really write a pa for every single occurence

[Inquirer]

Couldn't you write a fairly generic one with multiple choice phrases to adjust it to the situation at hand, I suppose?

Kind of:
Ladies and gentlemen,
Awfully sorry for the delay,
Unfortunately entirely out of our hands,
The reason for it is x/y/z. (select from a long list, or simply omit if nothing suitable is listed).
We are doing all it takes to speed up the process (sic).
We will keep you updated on any news.
Thanks for your patience.

I've been listening to a lot of these standard speeches over the past few weeks on my trips to Central and Eastern Europe. The intonation changes, but the wording is remarkable identical each time, and for a good reason: I doubt "to die" is part of any airline's announcement vocabulary, regardless the occurrence?!

[sean1982]

Did I at any time or in any way imply that "to die" is part of standard airline vocabulary?

Do we know what she said before that?
Do we know how long they had been there?
Do we know how many correct PA's she made before this sentence was singled out on YouTube and she was worldwide crucified?

[Stij]

Indeed Sean!

Can we conclude that she shouldn't have said it, but that we don't know the circumstances?

Kind regards,

Stij

[Passenger]

It's quite funny to see how a simple blooper is explained and analized here. Com'on please: a blooper is what it is: a blooper. Someone recorded it and therefore the blooper goes viral. Quite funny indeed, but no crucifixion worldwide.

It's gonna be something like the blooper from Flemish minister Muyters: "ik kan rekenen: 35+72 = 117". Or like the blooper from former Flemish minister Vandenbossche: "I don't know the square root of 25" (ik weet niet wat de vierkantswortel van 25 is). Or like previous prime minister Leterme singing the Brabançonne "Allons enfants de la Patrie..."

[Boeing767copilot]

Next wednesday FR press conference in Brussels, hosted by MOL himself. New routes out of BRU?

[sn26567]

Next wednesday FR press conference in Brussels, hosted by MOL himself. New routes out of BRU?

Certainly a new route from CRL to Toulouse. But for the rest, wait & see!

In other news, Ryanair CFO Neil Sorahan said “likely we will exercise all” 100 options on B737 MAX in addition to 100 firm orders. Wow!

[sn26567]

Press conference in Brussels :

BRU: 4 new routes : HAM MAD M LA MXP
CRL :4 new routes : TLS SOF Timisoara VRN

[sn26567]

In addition :

BRU : BTS also operated in winter
5 aircraft based iso 4
More flights to AGP FCO ALC VLC

CRL : Biarritz operated all year
More flights to Bucarest