Why cant they be compared both are disasters . . .
Just because one was man made and the other a natural phenomenon on this planet.
Both ended up in life loss and grief, Some people dont choose to dwell on it while others do.
But like you say this is way off topic and I agree enough said.
This week, US diverted an Alitalia plane
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Imagine, (potential) suspects and homeland service had the results of a wider survey like this, what could they do?
The suspects would think, that the airlines where the survey expect that they will be diverted, are better to be avoided. So they would choose the fly the airline that has not vote.
The homeland guys might think exactly the same.
Now who wins?
imho homeland on the Atlantic.
But (maybe) meanwhile, the suspects fly the South Atlantic & Pacific routes, and enter the US overland.
I saw recently a TV report of US citizens patrolling the southern US border.
In fact the terrorists are/were already inside.
Remember Galleway, or what is the name of the british MP, said something like: "The difference between Rumsfeld and me (Galleway) is that we met with Saddam, but I never sold any weapons to him."
So what these guys were doing for decades, was in a way secret, now when it reaches all the media, everybody seems surprised....
Like in Iran, these kind of businesses seem to backfire a l w a y s.
The suspects would think, that the airlines where the survey expect that they will be diverted, are better to be avoided. So they would choose the fly the airline that has not vote.
The homeland guys might think exactly the same.
Now who wins?
imho homeland on the Atlantic.
But (maybe) meanwhile, the suspects fly the South Atlantic & Pacific routes, and enter the US overland.
I saw recently a TV report of US citizens patrolling the southern US border.
In fact the terrorists are/were already inside.
Remember Galleway, or what is the name of the british MP, said something like: "The difference between Rumsfeld and me (Galleway) is that we met with Saddam, but I never sold any weapons to him."
So what these guys were doing for decades, was in a way secret, now when it reaches all the media, everybody seems surprised....
Like in Iran, these kind of businesses seem to backfire a l w a y s.
Chertoff en route to the Netherlands, Belgium and Britain...
Chertoff en route to the Netherlands, Belgium and Britain seeking Europe's help.
With U.S. security concerns causing two transatlantic flights to be diverted over the past two weeks, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, speaking ahead of his planned Sunday departure for the four-day trip to the Netherlands, Belgium and Britain*, said he expected questions over tough American regulations that require all passengers to be checked against a no-fly list.
Current rules require the data to be transferred 15 minutes after the flight departs. "Right now the rule is 15 minutes after liftoff. That raises the possibility of a plane getting turned around," said Chertoff.
If a passenger's name matches one on a watch list, the United States can order the plane to turn back or divert.
Chertoff hopes Europeans will agree to provide that information 30 minutes to 60 minutes before take-off.
*Does he intend to talk with the French in Brussels?
With U.S. security concerns causing two transatlantic flights to be diverted over the past two weeks, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, speaking ahead of his planned Sunday departure for the four-day trip to the Netherlands, Belgium and Britain*, said he expected questions over tough American regulations that require all passengers to be checked against a no-fly list.
Current rules require the data to be transferred 15 minutes after the flight departs. "Right now the rule is 15 minutes after liftoff. That raises the possibility of a plane getting turned around," said Chertoff.
If a passenger's name matches one on a watch list, the United States can order the plane to turn back or divert.
Chertoff hopes Europeans will agree to provide that information 30 minutes to 60 minutes before take-off.
*Does he intend to talk with the French in Brussels?
Aye - you mean George Galloway the MP. He was thrown out of Bliar's labour party for opposing the war in Iraq so then went and set up his own party - and won a seat in London off Labour. Not a man I respect too much usually but I had to admire the man's balls for his performance last week in teh US senate hearing. Even over there they had to take notice.....they will forget what was said in one nanosecond obviously but at least they paid attention for that long....
Nobody has voted for Korean Air ! ! !
Last weekend, a Bangkok-San Francisco flight was diverted to Japan, Narita.
Another error on the no-fly list.
Another blame for the war against terrorism.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SEO281654.htm
Last weekend, a Bangkok-San Francisco flight was diverted to Japan, Narita.
Another error on the no-fly list.
Another blame for the war against terrorism.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SEO281654.htm
Probably nobody.....
Ya, and that is not the first time the US brings a KE in big problems....LX-LGX wrote:Nobody has voted for Korean Air ! ! !
Last weekend, a Bangkok-San Francisco flight was diverted to Japan, Narita.
Notice that a US citizen of Pakistani descent has the same name as that of a suspect on the US government's no-fly list.
For that reason a KE was diverted to Japan indeed Narita Airport on Monday.
The man, a US citizen had boarded a Korean Air flight in Bangkok, to fly via Incheon to San Francisco, was allowed to re-board the flight with other passengers when it was determined he was not the suspect in question.
Imagine they found that out, too late and the crew would have been not available to operate that flight.
What is the overlay cost near Narita?
What would have been the idle time of the aircraft?
Who will pay for that?
Probably nobody.....
Canada is also very unhappy with the U.S. policy:
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1117716107.html
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1117716107.html
The problem we have in Canada is that dozens of domestic transcontinental flights are flying over US airspace every day.LX-LGX wrote:Canada is also very unhappy with the U.S. policy:
For instance, a typical YYZ-YVR Air Canada flight.
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=YYZ- ... MAP-STYLE=