Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

[convair]

So from April, the wet lease will consist in:

3 ERJ145 from BMI Regional
2 Dash Q400 from Flybe
3 SSJ100 from City Jet

This is assuming they keep the Flybe and BMI contracts unchanged.

Looking at their current needs:

And here the Avro's flight

6.30 Basel OO-DWC
9.30 Stockolm OO-DWE
9.35 Birmingham OO-DWL
10.05 Marseille OO-DWC
14.00 Bologne OO-DWD
14.40 Edimbourg OO-DWL
16.10 Basel OO-DWE
16.30 Birmingham OO-DWK
17.10 Stockolm OO-DWB
18.55 Copenhague OO-DWC
19.15 Stockolm OO-DWD
21.05 Marseille OO-DWK
21.15 Edimbourg OO-DWE
21.15 Birmingham OO-DWJ

This is the wetleased flights of yesterday, it's almost everyday the same (nor on weekend day)

BMI Regional

9.25 Nantes G-RJXB
9.50 Bristol G-RJXI
10.25 Strasbourg G-RJXM
13.40 Strasbourg G-RJXI
15.25 Nuremberg G-RJXB
15.30 Turin G-RJXM
16.45 Bristol G-RJXI
20.35 Nantes G-RJXI
20.55 Bremen G-RJXG
21.20 Bristol G-RJXM

Flybe

9.20 Hanovre G-ECOK
9.55 Billund G-KKEV
15.50 Billund G-ECOK
17.20 Hanovre G-KKEV
21.00 Billund G-ECOK
21.10 Hanovre G-KKEV

The ERJs are quite busy with 10 "BMI" flights for 4 aircraft, of which 9 flights for 3 aircraft; same for the Dashs with 6 flights for 2 aircraft.

The Avros apparently perform 14 flights with 7 aircraft, as DWA is now out of the roster (cfr hereunder); 5 aircraft should be enough for these 14 flights.

DWA, end of Jan
DWJ, end of Feb
DWK, mid of Apr
DWL, mid of May
DWB, mid of July
DWC, end of Sep
DWE, mid of Oct
DWD, early Nov

So the real need for wet-leased aircraft under the current schedules is 10 aicraft + say 1 back-up. When the Avros will have disappeard and replaced by SSJs, the fleet would then be short by 2 or 3 aircraft.

So far, only 1 A319 (SSO) is announced; we can assume there will be more A320s coming. Anyone with insight on this?

[crew1990]

in a Brussels Airlines c/s.

What do you mean by "c/s"

[luchtzak]

in a Brussels Airlines c/s.

What do you mean by "c/s"

Color scheme.

[crew1990]

So far, only 1 A319 (SSO) is announced; we can assume there will be more A320s coming. Anyone with insight on this?

SSO is announced but also SNI, and regarding wikipedia in FR, NL and EN another extra A319 should be coming. Can anyone confirm?

[crew1990]

in a Brussels Airlines c/s.

What do you mean by "c/s"

Color scheme.

Great news

[DeltaWiskey]

The q400 leases will probably not be extended in order to standardise on 4ea 50-seater and 4ea 100-seaters.

[Jaguar]

Arent these three SSJ already in the Fleet, EI FWA -B- C
There have been several flights from Bru to Venice lately presumably for training purposes ?w...

[crew1990]

The q400 leases will probably not be extended in order to standardise on 4ea 50-seater and 4ea 100-seaters.

Until when is running the Flybe contract?

Arent these three SSJ already in the Fleet, EI FWA -B- C
There have been several flights from Bru to Venice lately presumably for training purposes ?w...

City Jet still have a lot of SSJ to be delivered

[Jaguar]

FlyBe Was looking for crew in october for a 2 year contract, i guess mayb Cityjet ran off with that deal

[sn26567]

Arent these three SSJ already in the Fleet, EI FWA -B- C

EI-FWC was in Malta two days ago. Picture taken as I was leaving the island:

[nordikcam]

And here the Avro's flight

6.30 Basel OO-DWC
9.30 Stockolm OO-DWE
9.35 Birmingham OO-DWL
10.05 Marseille OO-DWC
14.00 Bologne OO-DWD
14.40 Edimbourg OO-DWL
16.10 Basel OO-DWE
16.30 Birmingham OO-DWK
17.10 Stockolm OO-DWB
18.55 Copenhague OO-DWC
19.15 Stockolm OO-DWD
21.05 Marseille OO-DWK
21.15 Edimbourg OO-DWE
21.15 Birmingham OO-DWJ

Sometimes KRAKOW is served by Avro's as today !

[sn26567]

Belfast is also operated by an Avro.

[crew1990]

And here the Avro's flight

6.30 Basel OO-DWC
9.30 Stockolm OO-DWE
9.35 Birmingham OO-DWL
10.05 Marseille OO-DWC
14.00 Bologne OO-DWD
14.40 Edimbourg OO-DWL
16.10 Basel OO-DWE
16.30 Birmingham OO-DWK
17.10 Stockolm OO-DWB
18.55 Copenhague OO-DWC
19.15 Stockolm OO-DWD
21.05 Marseille OO-DWK
21.15 Edimbourg OO-DWE
21.15 Birmingham OO-DWJ

Sometimes KRAKOW is served by Avro's as today !

The list that you see here is the one of the yesterday 12th January, indeed there is sometimes Bologna, even Zagreb etc. here is the list of the 9th

6.30 Basel OO-DWJ
9.30 Stockolm OO-DWL
9.35 Birmingham OO-DWK
10.05 Marseille OO-DWJ
11.20 Cracovie OO-DWB
13.15 Zagreb OO-DWE
14.40 Edimburgh OO-DWK
15.30 Bologne OO-DWJ
15.35 Belfast OO-DWC
17.10 Stockolm OO-DWB
19.15 Stockolm OO-DWE
21.05 Marseille OO-DWK
21.15 Birmingham OO-DWJ
21.15 Edimburgh OO-DWC

The scheduled is different regarding the day of the week, so please don't shout at me read properly what I wrotte!

[brusselsairlinesfan]

The SSJ will come straight from the factory in a Brussels Airlines c/s.

Does it mean that brussels airlines brand and c/s are here to stay for a long time even with the full integration within the LH Group ?!

[nordikcam]

@crew1990...please it's not shooting...it's only one more info. Sorry if you feel it so !
I always have a lot of pleasure to read your news...! Thx !

[Bralo20]

The SSJ will come straight from the factory in a Brussels Airlines c/s.

Does it mean that brussels airlines brand and c/s are here to stay for a long time even with the full integration within the LH Group ?!

Anything can happen, the Cityjet contract is only for 2 years. Guess they paid enough to include the painting of the birds.

When brand new planes are delivered in SN's c/s then we can maybe talk about long term things, but for ACMI leases it's nothing more than part of the contract.

[DeltaWiskey]

SSO is announced but also SNI, and regarding wikipedia in FR, NL and EN another extra A319 should be coming. Can anyone confirm?

A few months ago, I have came accross some preliminary information regarding an additional A320 (on top of sso/sni), but only to serve as a back-up aircraft from 01 July 2017. I haven't heard anything recent regarding this 'plan', maybe it is shelved, I really don't know.

I wouldn't look too deep into the cityjet contract, it is the result of decisions made 1,5y ago, long before it was certain that SN would be taken over by the LH group in 2016.

I think we see the American trend of outsourcing 'regional' flying coming to europe. Flybe, bmi, cityjet, braathens, etc are all doing a very decent job. Less risk for them, steady income throughout the year. On the other side, it enables mid-sized airlines like SN to operate a small fleet of regional aircraft at a reasonable cost for some very specific routes.

[cathay belgium]

Hi,

I read the SSJ as :' ahhhhhh Bromma is saved for the future , at least two years from april ' !

For destinations BHX is already loaded as A319 for the future, FLR has a dedicated a319 so guess the other options are altogether SSJ routes , three planes is quite enough for these

It is quite obvious this decision was pre LH..., don't think LH would opt for this option, E190 and CRJ9 enough within the eurowings group !
Eurowings will switch to all A319/320 so their smaller jets must go somewhere... in two years ?

On a note : Helvetic, is it Swiss Wings in the future or independent enough to go on like this ?

CXB

[sn26567]

On a note : Helvetic, is it Swiss Wings in the future or independent enough to go on like this ?

Off topic, indeed. But I wrote in another topic (on Eurowings) that the future Eurowings Switzerland could be the present Belair.

[luchtzak]

Some drama just posted on hln

http://m.hln.be/hln/m/nl/960/Buitenland ... oudt.dhtml

The article has been rewritten, now with positive feedback from Luc Dewilde, aviation journalist and specialist.