Thomas Cook and LOT

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:12

Thomas Cook Belgium will do his long haul operations with a Boeing B767 of LOT, the Polish national airline company.

Post by **sn26567** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:14

... and Polish crew?

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:19

... and Polish crew?

Well, I don't mind Thomas Cook are using LOT for their long haul operations. You can count me in when this beauty is on board

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RobinZartos · Post by **RobinZartos** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:21

Beauty?

Do you mean the flights from Brussels?

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:30

Polish cockpit- and cabincrew. Tomorrow, friday TC will use an Air Plus-aircraft. As from saturday, it will be a 767-300 from LOT and this till the end of april. TC is still looking for a definite solution.

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:30

Has LOT a 767 left-over ?

Seems quite strange that a flag carrier is becoming a charter subcontractor abroad !!

FB.

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 10 Feb 2005, 17:34

The LOT-767 needs a C-check on 8/3/2005....

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 10 Feb 2005, 18:54

Well I hope TCAB decides to acquire an own airplane for long-haul ops...

bravo767 · Post by **bravo767** » 10 Feb 2005, 21:50

Hello,
Usually I just read some topics from time to time and just rarely intervene in discussions.
So this answer is more generally related to a lot of subjects which have a similar origin.
Thomas Cook will operate long haul with a Lot 767
TUI has just found a rotten B767 that will not fly soon
Beap has not yet started to fly

Yes, all this and certainly other topics have one simple answer!!!! THERE ARE NO MORE LONG HAUL AIRCRAFT AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET.
And those available are old and in bad condition or extremely expensive to lease.
After Volare bankruptcy, their A330s were gone immediately.
NEOS, an Italian charter based at Milano operates their long haul with an Icelandic cy.
Lauda Italy uses a LOT B767 to fly to the Maldives and Zanzibar; they would like a 4th A330 but none are available!!! Their ground engineers are going to follow a refresher course on B767 in the off chance they could lay a hand on one.
Eurofly has a wet lease contract with STAR Alliance to operate some of their flights. Their third A330 is due for May. If they don’t take it, there are a lot of hands ready to grab it.
SAS looks for B767 as they cannot find A330's.
Boeing does not produce B767 anymore and their B777 is just not the good aircraft for a lot of companies.
Airbus has its production of A330's already full for at least 2 years: mostly for Asian companies and some lessors.

You all got the picture???

If some charter companies still want to fly long haul, they will have to find passengers ready to pay good money. Otherwise they will not survive.
Fuel was already expensive and now it is the turn of the leasing price.

Happy landings

Humberside · Post by **Humberside** » 10 Feb 2005, 22:10

Boeing will produce the B767 is there is an order for it. Production line hasnt closed yet

bravo767 · Post by **bravo767** » 10 Feb 2005, 23:12

Humberside wrote:Boeing will produce the B767 is there is an order for it. Production line hasnt closed yet

True, My mistake!!! It is the 757 line which is closed; but there were only 9 767 orders for 2004!!! The line is still open for some military orders (tankers) and the potential customers are waiting for the new 787, so there will be a gap in aircraft production for that specific range and payload....

Humberside · Post by **Humberside** » 10 Feb 2005, 23:19

Did HMY/Harmony ever officialy order any B767's. There was some rumours about this a couple of months ago

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 11 Feb 2005, 01:06

Friday's FQ8941 to the Dominican is a A310-300.

Post by **sn26567** » 11 Feb 2005, 08:56

bravo767 wrote:TUI has just found a rotten B767 that will not fly soon

Sorry, but it's in the air right now, flying to the Carribean with its first revenue passengers.

Post by **airbuske** » 11 Feb 2005, 09:01

A Polish B767 with Polish crew and passenger from Belgium but
Thomas Cook will put 1 translator on the flight for language problems with the crew.

Airbuske

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 11 Feb 2005, 09:39

LX-LGX wrote:Friday's FQ8941 to the Dominican is a A310-300.

It's an Air Plus Comet. It will be their last flight out of BRU for TC. Tomorrow, the LOT B767 operations are due to start. Config is 18 C and 220 Y.

And indeed, the LOT 767 will have to perform a C-check for a couple of weeks in march. TC is looking for alternatives about this matter.

All this was reported by Claude Perignon in today's Travel Magazine.

FB.

bravo767 · Post by **bravo767** » 11 Feb 2005, 17:48

sn26567 wrote:
bravo767 wrote:TUI has just found a rotten B767 that will not fly soon
Sorry, but it's in the air right now, flying to the Carribean with its first revenue passengers.

Ok, good for them and I wish them many happy landings. Maybe I'll cross them soon in those "Watrs" area.

But this doesn't change what I expressed in my post: a lot of airlines are desperate to find suitable and affordable long haul aircrafts.

Ciao

fly · Post by **fly** » 11 Feb 2005, 17:54

that's also the main reason why SNBA doesn't expand their longhaul network at this stage , they just can't find a suitable A330 for the right price.

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 17 Feb 2005, 23:33

A 767 from the Portugese airline Euro Atlantic will do the long haul for Thomas Cook Belgium the next months. TCB dropped LOT.

OO-VEX · Post by **OO-VEX** » 18 Feb 2005, 00:57

Boeing767copilot wrote:A 767 from the Portugese airline Euro Atlantic will do the long haul for Thomas Cook Belgium the next months. TCB dropped LOT.

Are you really sure TCB dropped LOT? In one of your previous posts, you mention the C-check.

Boeing767copilot wrote:The LOT-767 needs a C-check on 8/3/2005....

I guess you just wanted to say that the LOT 767 was only a short term option for TCB and that they now have secured their long haul operations for a longer period?

OO-VEX