China Eastern Airliners at BRU?

Benjamin73 · Post by **Benjamin73** » 12 Jul 2004, 19:14

Just caught on ACARS:
B-2383 20040712 1855 MU0551 (Airbus A340-313X China Eastern Airlines) (ZBAA-EBBR)

Does anybody have an ETD?

Benjamin73 · Post by **Benjamin73** » 12 Jul 2004, 19:32

nice bird today... watching the logs I also see:

9V-SVM 20040712 1155 SQ0327 (Boeing 777-212/ER Singapore Airlines) (EGCC-EBBR/VABB/WSSS)

Robin_Bamps · Post by **Robin_Bamps** » 12 Jul 2004, 20:00

Hi Benjamin,

Are these logs correct? Maybe it are just overflying birds with a routing over Brussels FIR. China Eastern A340's and SQ 777's @ BRU seems to be impossible (nothing was mentioned in any flightplan).

Regards, Robin Bamps.

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 12 Jul 2004, 20:01

Sorry to say, but those planes are heading for Heathrow, I asked the same question several months ago

It has something to do with their fuel.

Post by **luchtzak** » 12 Jul 2004, 20:04

Maybe EBBR is mentioned as the alternate destination in case they can't land at London Heathrow.

Benjamin73 · Post by **Benjamin73** » 12 Jul 2004, 20:05

thank you very much!

Robin_Bamps · Post by **Robin_Bamps** » 12 Jul 2004, 20:09

Thanks Blackhawk for solving this case

When I am spotting at BRU, I also often see exotic birds overflying BRU at high altitude like Gulf Air A340's, Virgin Atlantic A346's and Balkan Holidays TU-154's (all heading for Heathrow and Manchester).

There were times that China Eastern was sending A340's to BRU, but the connection was shutted down when Sabena ceased operations. This is my very first spotting picture (more than three years ago, made with an ordinary 105mm analog zoom camera), which shows B-2380 approaching runway 25L :

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=20179

Regards, Robin Bamps.

Post by **sn26567** » 13 Jul 2004, 08:33

Robin_Bamps wrote:There were times that China Eastern was sending A340's to BRU, but the connection was shut down when Sabena ceased operations.

... and even before. The flight was continuing to Madrid, final destination. In the other direction it served both Peking (or Beijing as they say now...) and Shanghai.

moons · Post by **moons** » 13 Jul 2004, 14:52

It's sad they dont fly to EBBR anymore, I saw that A340 passing my house many times...If I'm not wrong they had a flight or one of their flights which landed wednesday afternoon around 2-3h, isn't it? At that moment I had my binoculars in my hand waiting this bird and enjoying when it turned into the direction of my house. Biman DC10 was also a regular visitor at my house

Nowadays I don't often see this bird anymore

website-info · Post by **website-info** » 16 Jul 2004, 09:32

Guys,

Hers's what I posted a few months ago in answer to a similar Q on MU,

Alot of Far Eastern carriers (and US when routing Eastbound) will use what is called "en-route re-clearance - dispatch" in simple terms, if a flights is fully loaded and then has head winds it might not be able to make it destination withthe fuel carried, therefore an airline will plan for one it can meet and then at a given point (whilst the aircraft is still 30000ft + in the air) the dispatch office will re-clear the flight to continue to the actual destination or divert.

In the example of MU, they take BRU as the decision point, the aircraft dispatcher would have re calculated the remaining fuel and required fuel including legal reserves, and if it has enough it continues over BRU into LHR.

Maybe if the headwinds are strong we might see a flight in the summer.....

Rgds
Tony

Post by **luchtzak** » 16 Jul 2004, 10:00

thanks Tony for the explanation! I was close though