Brussels Airlines in 2019
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Brussels Airlines, forced to cancel 105 “Thomas Cook” flights in October, offers 20% discount to sunny holiday destinations
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- HQ_BRU_Lover
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019
I have called the contact centre for my flight leaving 19th October, returning 29th October: they consider Lanzarote as a "popular" destination and will continue flights for the time being.Hello,
Does anyone has an insight about what to expect for november ? I'm supposed to fly to Lanzarote this month...
Regards,
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Thanks for the informationHQ_BRU_Lover wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 17:11I have called the contact centre for my flight leaving 19th October, returning 29th October: they consider Lanzarote as a "popular" destination and will continue flights for the time being.Hello,
Does anyone has an insight about what to expect for november ? I'm supposed to fly to Lanzarote this month...
Regards,
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My experience lately with Brussels Airlines is really bad I had no cancellation this year but I took the plane 10 times from Brussels to Africa and for all those flight's it didn't go on time.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Can you give me dates and flightnumbers?lumumba wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:56 My experience lately with Brussels Airlines is really bad I had no cancellation this year but I took the plane 10 times from Brussels to Africa and for all those flight's it didn't go on time.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
Will try to figure out what was wrong.
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Plus the time to FRA, ?lumumba wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:56 My experience lately with Brussels Airlines is really bad I had no cancellation this year but I took the plane 10 times from Brussels to Africa and for all those flight's it didn't go on time.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
- Darjeeling
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019
Some updates I could grab from a relative in the wake of last week's O.R / C.E :
- TC still has a huge debt towards SN, of a few millions of €. Contrary to what was previously said, SN was paid four to five weeks after the flights, like hotels with the stays (up to three months in that case)
- 10% of SN's revenue was coming from the TC deal. Impact on EBIT margin is expected by the end of this fiscal year.
- Flights from october 10th until end of S19 season are still being evaluated flight by flights. Rebooking costs are soaring to many holidays destinations.
- All trainings / upgrades / new TR ... are frozen for a minimum period of six weeks for flight and cabin crew.
- SN's biggest problem is when to "smart-cancel" the flights in order to avoid penalties with its own pax.
- Reboot program will be SN's heaviest social program, many efforts will be demanded, with a very very thin margin for negotiations.
- TC still has a huge debt towards SN, of a few millions of €. Contrary to what was previously said, SN was paid four to five weeks after the flights, like hotels with the stays (up to three months in that case)
- 10% of SN's revenue was coming from the TC deal. Impact on EBIT margin is expected by the end of this fiscal year.
- Flights from october 10th until end of S19 season are still being evaluated flight by flights. Rebooking costs are soaring to many holidays destinations.
- All trainings / upgrades / new TR ... are frozen for a minimum period of six weeks for flight and cabin crew.
- SN's biggest problem is when to "smart-cancel" the flights in order to avoid penalties with its own pax.
- Reboot program will be SN's heaviest social program, many efforts will be demanded, with a very very thin margin for negotiations.
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Always to Luanda from January...almost all the flights to Luanda where late!Kapitein wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 13:02Can you give me dates and flightnumbers?lumumba wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:56 My experience lately with Brussels Airlines is really bad I had no cancellation this year but I took the plane 10 times from Brussels to Africa and for all those flight's it didn't go on time.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
Will try to figure out what was wrong.
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Hasta la victoria siempre.
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It's not about me it's about the general service and don't forget in my case on the return flight I have to go true Kinshasa so Frankfurt is also better...Airbus330lover wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 14:16Plus the time to FRA, ?lumumba wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 11:56 My experience lately with Brussels Airlines is really bad I had no cancellation this year but I took the plane 10 times from Brussels to Africa and for all those flight's it didn't go on time.
It makes the trip so much longer if you compare to my 15 flights I did with Lufthansa all of them departed on time and arrived early!!!!
Please do something.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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SN starts to Ljubljana, after Adria démise : https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ljubljana/
Hi. I'm Thibault Lapers. @ThibaultLapers & @TLspotting
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Would have been too cynical to put this in the "Anomalies in BRU",...
No Jets-in-Bed today.
Quite the contrary : 10 chicks out !
Even OO-SFZ returned from Mx in DUB this night and operates IAD as a breeze.
And SFP that stayed in bed since the cancellation of SN371 last Thursday is up and running again.
SFW is operating a special SN245 to FNA-ROB, after the cancelled flight yesterday courtesy of SFF who is again healthy and operating DSS today.
A great day for sure.
H.A.
No Jets-in-Bed today.
Quite the contrary : 10 chicks out !
Even OO-SFZ returned from Mx in DUB this night and operates IAD as a breeze.
And SFP that stayed in bed since the cancellation of SN371 last Thursday is up and running again.
SFW is operating a special SN245 to FNA-ROB, after the cancelled flight yesterday courtesy of SFF who is again healthy and operating DSS today.
A great day for sure.
H.A.
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Beautiful....Homo Aeroportus wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 16:39 Would have been too cynical to put this in the "Anomalies in BRU",...
No Jets-in-Bed today.
Quite the contrary : 10 chicks out !
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Even OO-SFZ returned from Mx in DUB this night and operates IAD as a breeze.
And SFP that stayed in bed since the cancellation of SN371 last Thursday is up and running again.
SFW is operating a special SN245 to FNA-ROB, after the cancelled flight yesterday courtesy of SFF who is again healthy and operating DSS today.
A great day for sure.
H.A.
Hasta la victoria siempre.
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Hi,
For those who still don't understand...
SN is gone, LH is here , they don't call us EW but in fact we're still not going anywhere..
The CEO is German..., LH knows only A32X so stay with this... The Dash and CRJ 's we're whished to leave the fleet so don't expect wise decisions which cost money anytime soon...
Remember SN is just a livery with some nice people around which don't have anything to say...
And guess CS prefer to see sink SN sooner then later with his EW dream being shattered in pieces...
Just my thought...
CXB
For those who still don't understand...
SN is gone, LH is here , they don't call us EW but in fact we're still not going anywhere..
The CEO is German..., LH knows only A32X so stay with this... The Dash and CRJ 's we're whished to leave the fleet so don't expect wise decisions which cost money anytime soon...
Remember SN is just a livery with some nice people around which don't have anything to say...
And guess CS prefer to see sink SN sooner then later with his EW dream being shattered in pieces...
Just my thought...
CXB
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Fun fact, but my neighbour in Brussels is Slovenian. (we just chatted about this) Though the schedule BRU-LJU is not great, they're happy with SN jumping in. Second half of 2021 Slovenia has the EU presidency, so this is a mighty important route for them (Presidency preparations are already happening).TLspotting wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 11:00 SN starts to Ljubljana, after Adria démise : https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ljubljana/
Same happened in Estonia with Estonian Air going bust just before the presidency. Lithuania in its time even created its own airline for this purpose, though only SN stuck.
Also, the Slovenes aren't convinced they'll recuperate much of the lost connections quickly..
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Why you are suprised. Sloviania is not probably a very big market
AF operates only a daily flight, British Airways only a seasonal service (started this year).
KLM, Iberia, Alitalia, Lufthansa don't serve LJU.
It's a also a small country.
Some airline will replace Adria Airways on some routes, but probably most of time by Low Cost airlines.
I guess many people living at the Italian Slovenian boarder go to Venise to fly. Zagreb is located only 140km, from Ljubljana. I guess that many people living at the Croatian Slovenian boarder, go to Zagreb to fly. Both Zagreb and Venise airports attractives areas probably include a part of Slovenia. Both airports are served by Mid East airlines and linked to North America.
It's a little bitte like Bratsilavia with Vienna. No major airlines serve BTS, beacause, Vienna is located only 80km from BTS.
AF operates only a daily flight, British Airways only a seasonal service (started this year).
KLM, Iberia, Alitalia, Lufthansa don't serve LJU.
It's a also a small country.
Some airline will replace Adria Airways on some routes, but probably most of time by Low Cost airlines.
I guess many people living at the Italian Slovenian boarder go to Venise to fly. Zagreb is located only 140km, from Ljubljana. I guess that many people living at the Croatian Slovenian boarder, go to Zagreb to fly. Both Zagreb and Venise airports attractives areas probably include a part of Slovenia. Both airports are served by Mid East airlines and linked to North America.
It's a little bitte like Bratsilavia with Vienna. No major airlines serve BTS, beacause, Vienna is located only 80km from BTS.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019
Now why would he want that?cathay belgium wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 17:44 And guess CS prefer to see sink SN sooner then later with his EW dream being shattered in pieces...
Just my thought...
CXB
You make ot sound like CS is some little, angry, disgruntled man who wants to take revenge on SN for scattering his dream.
CS was wrong with his SN/EW madness, but the man is payed to make money for LHG's shareholders and if he could do so with SN, he will.
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Probably Tuifly belgium will take over those routes from different cities in France.
But I like that idea
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Regarding Aigle Azur ceasing operations, brussels airlines should certainly consider flying Bamako again. Indeed, Air France now has a monopoly on that route and the tickets are really overpriced !
So I hope that SN will be back very soon in Mali... really a nice opportunity for them... what do you think?
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Thank you for your kind comment regarding my suggestion concerning the opportunity for SN to serve Bamako again after the demise of Aigle Azur.
Indeed, Bamako and Libreville would perfectly fit within SN African network! These 2 french speaking subsaharian cities belong to the core market of brussels airlines...
Don’t let AF benefit from a monopoly in Bamako, it would be a mistake and a missed opportunity I think...
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Couldn't Bamako be served, at least initially, as a once or twice per week triangular flight, combined with a more traditional destination like Dakar?