A while ago, because of a cancelled flight, I had to take the High Speed Rail to CDG and fly from there.
I agree, the High Speed Rail connection is very convenient and comfortable
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A while ago, because of a cancelled flight, I had to take the High Speed Rail to CDG and fly from there.
It may sound strange for aviation enthousiasts, but maybe a flight ban under 1000 km (or so) would be a good thing for BRU, since LH could nog longer steal away pax? And in such way BRU might become more intresting for airlines to launch direct flights.Atlantis wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 21:15This is exactly what LH has in their mind. Filling their planes at BRU, flying to any airport in Germany and to let them transfer to any other destination.ezis_bis wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 20:49Well, there is a rationale behind it from their perspective.
But trying to send everyone to MUC or FRA (horrible place), is not going to work though.
Sending people from BRU, ARN or CPH to MUC, to send them all to GRU means they have to make a certain detour (time and money wise less interesting). Plus, people have other options; via MAD or LIS, shorter and prolly cheaper. MAD for sure is a much nicer place to change than FRA.
CDG and AMS are just a train ride away.
I would of course like a BRU-GRU route, but there are many more (especially to the USA and Asia) which would make more sense.
And they won't happen, because the biggest Airline in BRU is owned by another Airline who will send everybody east before they will be sent west. Or first South to MUC to go North to Asia.
On this way they want to create from BRU a less attractive airport, only good for leisure flights with Eurowings to the South of Europe. The premium passengers has to fly via other airports.
BRU and the BRU management was absolutely not happy with the full take over of SN by LH
Exactly, that's why I started a couple of weeks ago the new topic: BRU future: Star and OneWorld under one roof? Bcs the space is there, potential and it would bring much more variety and more business and traffic to BRU. Keeping in mind the Vision 2040 and the lot more pax they want to attract, there is only one option and this is to open the airport much more for other alliancesConti764 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2019, 13:06It may sound strange for aviation enthousiasts, but maybe a flight ban under 1000 km (or so) would be a good thing for BRU, since LH could nog longer steal away pax? And in such way BRU might become more intresting for airlines to launch direct flights.Atlantis wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 21:15This is exactly what LH has in their mind. Filling their planes at BRU, flying to any airport in Germany and to let them transfer to any other destination.ezis_bis wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 20:49
Well, there is a rationale behind it from their perspective.
But trying to send everyone to MUC or FRA (horrible place), is not going to work though.
Sending people from BRU, ARN or CPH to MUC, to send them all to GRU means they have to make a certain detour (time and money wise less interesting). Plus, people have other options; via MAD or LIS, shorter and prolly cheaper. MAD for sure is a much nicer place to change than FRA.
CDG and AMS are just a train ride away.
I would of course like a BRU-GRU route, but there are many more (especially to the USA and Asia) which would make more sense.
And they won't happen, because the biggest Airline in BRU is owned by another Airline who will send everybody east before they will be sent west. Or first South to MUC to go North to Asia.
On this way they want to create from BRU a less attractive airport, only good for leisure flights with Eurowings to the South of Europe. The premium passengers has to fly via other airports.
BRU and the BRU management was absolutely not happy with the full take over of SN by LH
Anyways, it would be wise for BRU management to shift attention from *A to other options, offering OW (to name the most logical) some nice options from BRU (slots, gates, smooth transfers,...)
After all, in todays Europe it's a bit contradictory to focus on national airlines, especially when they're actually quite hostile.
Let's hope they'll go ahead and not with yet another NYC-BRU rotation. BOS-BRU might be a nice addition.Traveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
BOS...LH will not be happy ! That's good !OK...I can dream !Conti764 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 15:55Let's hope they'll go ahead and not with yet another NYC-BRU rotation. BOS-BRU might be a nice addition.Traveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
Spare me. I already shiver at the idea of doing an 8 hour transatlantic flight in a single aisle aircraftTraveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
Primera Air was going to do so...Matt wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 09:25Spare me. I already shiver at the idea of doing an 8 hour transatlantic flight in a single aisle aircraftTraveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
Why it's less comfortable in a single aisle aircraft than another me thinking is more comfortable than to be in 4 seats in middle of a Jumbo Jet for example.Matt wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 09:25Spare me. I already shiver at the idea of doing an 8 hour transatlantic flight in a single aisle aircraftTraveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
An Airbus A321 should be more comfortable than a Boeing 737: wider seats!Matt wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 09:25Spare me. I already shiver at the idea of doing an 8 hour transatlantic flight in a single aisle aircraftTraveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
I flew with them from JFK to LAX.. flight was a bit over 6 hours..was really Doable. The return to JFK was on their mint service which is fantastic!!! And I recall having paid about 400 USD for the mint service and less than 100 USD for economy on the outbound. Both classes were excellent, really. They will definitely have an impact once they start flights to Europe. And their TRUEBLUE FF program is excellent..Matt wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 09:25Spare me. I already shiver at the idea of doing an 8 hour transatlantic flight in a single aisle aircraftTraveler wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 12:44 Within a few years JetBlue might start flying to Brussels (Article in Dutch).
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 16311.html
The reason for this is much more simple than many might think. Despite LATAM being oneworld, LH had an agreement for codeshare with them for the MUC route planned by LATAM. However, it became clear LATAM does not have enough aircraft available to start this new route. So LH decided to serve this route themselves instead. I guess this might only be temporary.
It was only three times a week.... that is not much. LATAM is a very mature company and knows what they do and how. They have a lot of sister companies which they could transfer a plane in case of need. Just like they do from time to time with their cargo planes.....euroflyer wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 15:18The reason for this is much more simple than many might think. Despite LATAM being oneworld, LH had an agreement for codeshare with them for the MUC route planned by LATAM. However, it became clear LATAM does not have enough aircraft available to start this new route. So LH decided to serve this route themselves instead. I guess this might only be temporary.
The SN website shows AR8 equipment and they are the operator.In the past SN, FlyBe and BMI all used "small" aircraft including RJ146 with good load factors .....so as they say in the US "Go figure" ...
No AR8 in SN fleet. So...CityJet as operator ?bristol411 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 16:38The SN website shows AR8 equipment and they are the operator.In the past SN, FlyBe and BMI all used "small" aircraft including RJ146 with good load factors .....so as they say in the US "Go figure" ...
EIRJO has been used on CPH route 2 weeks ago (I caught it), but I'm not up to date if they continued for a while after.nordikcam wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 18:32No AR8 in SN fleet. So...CityJet as operator ?bristol411 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 16:38The SN website shows AR8 equipment and they are the operator.In the past SN, FlyBe and BMI all used "small" aircraft including RJ146 with good load factors .....so as they say in the US "Go figure" ...