The big loadfactor topic

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SN1234
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The big loadfactor topic

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I find it Always interesting to read in a trip report how big the loadfactor was. Just to have an idea if the route is a success. So I thought why not making a topic where you can drop the loadfactor of your flight for those who don't want to write a whole trip report. I will start:

1. Date:30/10
Airline:British Airways
Departure airport:Brussels Airport
Arrival airport:London Heathrow
Flight number:BAW389
Aircraft:Airbus A320
LF:75-80% (business 100%)

2. Date:02/01
Airline:British Airways
Departure airport:London Heathrow
Arrival airport:Brussels Airport
Flight number:BAW404
Aircraft:Airbus 319
LF:99% (business 100%) (only 2 places weren't occupied)

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Good idea. I would only transfer the topic from "Civil aviation" to "Airline experiences and trip reports"
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Hi SN1234,

Will do this for my flight to/from Malta next week (holidays so plenty of time to observe :D ) and for my last trip of this year to San Francisco (via FRA on A380). The latter will be more difficult since I don't know how to collect the information: just walking around on the two floors might not be allowed :D Maybe I will just ask ...

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Danny

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Post by Treeper »

I'm doing BRU-BCN on Thursday and BCN-BRU on Sunday with FR. I'll let you know about those ones.

I can give you some LF's from my summer trip to Australia, but that's already 3-4 months ago, don't know if that's still informative?

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Hello

I am not on these flights but got some info from my colleagues at the airport about the load factors on 31DEC & 01JAN on the Aeroflot flights

31DEC2014
SU2168/2169
Inbound: 126
Outbound: 30

01JAN2014
SU2168/2169
Inbound: 125
Outbound: 20

As you can see, full coming in from SVO and almost empty back to SVO.

Greetings,
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:thumbup:
tangolima wrote:
As you can see, full coming in from SVO and almost empty back to SVO.

Greetings,

Maybe so...depending on aircraft type ;) ...which will be...?

PS: thanks for all the information you supply daily on this forum! :) :thumbup:

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convair wrote::thumbup:
tangolima wrote:
As you can see, full coming in from SVO and almost empty back to SVO.

Greetings,

Maybe so...depending on aircraft type ;) ...which will be...?

PS: thanks for all the information you supply daily on this forum! :) :thumbup:
Hello

A320 on both flights.

Greetings,
All my posted timings are local !

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1. Date: 25/12
Airline: Emirates
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Dubai
Flight number: EK184
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER
LF:95% (business 30%)

2. Date: 29/12
Airline: Emirates
Departure airport: Dubai
Arrival airport: Brussels Airport
Flight number: EK183
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER
LF:100% (business 50%) (Marc Wilmots & his family + Rik Daems werd both seated in Business)
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1.Date : 18/1/2015
Airlines : Brussels Airlines
Departure airport : Barcelona BCN
Arrival airport : BRU
Flight number : SN 3704
Aircraft : Airbus 319 - OO-SSC
Load factor : 80%

I was able to count the passengers going out of the arrival flight SN 3703 BRU BCN..with 132 passengers for 141 seats I guess. So 93 %...good !

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nordikcam wrote: I was able to count the passengers going out of the arrival flight SN 3703 BRU BCN..with 132 passengers for 141 seats I guess. So 93 %...good !
Loadfactor on the SN3703 was 96 % ;)
Version was 8 C , 6 occupied and 129 Y , 124 occupied.
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airbuske wrote:
Loadfactor on the SN3703 was 96 % ;)
Version was 8 C , 6 occupied and 129 Y , 124 occupied.
Thx for having corrected me. You was on the flight ?? ;) ;)

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nordikcam wrote: Thx for having corrected me. You was on the flight ?? ;) ;)
I'm working for Brussels Airlines ;)
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Airbuske

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Flew QR in October. BRU-DOH dayflight on 787: loadfactor approx 90% in economy. DOH-BRU nightflight on 787: loadfactor approx 30% in economy, which was very welcome cause the 787 in a 3-3-3 configuration is terrible. I even considered upgrading to business for the return flight, but decided not to do it, when I saw the almost empty seat map during online check in. Almost all passenger had 3 seats and could sleep 'totally flat', I called it a 'pseudo-business experience'.

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Some estimated Ryanair load factors from/to BRU:
- BRU-FCO 14/01/2015: 90%
- FCO-BRU 14/01/2015: 45%
- BRU-LIS 21/01/2015: 85%
- LIS-BRU 21/01/2015: 50%
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Post by Inquirer »

PRG (on Brussels Airlines) today:
counted more than 150 pax on the A320, so I suppose that's a +/- 90% loadfactor.

Technical question:
How does one calculate the loadfactor on an airline with a business product on shorthaul?
Are the middle seats which are deliberately left open counted, or not?

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I didn't include the middle seats (only in business off course) in my calculation. I tried to make the difference between business and economy.

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16/03 BRU-BOM 9W A333 LF: economy 60-70%, Business 80-90%
16/03 BOM-HKG 9W B773 LF: economy 90-95%, Business 90-95%, first unknown
19/03 HKG-BOM 9W A333 LF: economy 100%, Business 90-95%
20/03 BOM-BRU 9W A333 LF: economy 100%, Business 100% ( mix of western- bunch of Chinese tourist and indian - most of them where on transit and around 60-80 ppl where having BRU as terminus.

First time on 9W metal and first time via BOM airport

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Date: 20/03
Airline: SWISS
Departure airport: Zürich
Arrival airport: Brussels Airport
Flight number: LX 780
Aircraft: RJ 100
LF: 100% overbooked ! Looking for passengers who could take an other flight !! ( 250 € for this )

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Post by DIBO »

Any loadfactor news on all the new connections out of ANR? Doesn't need to be from firsthand, on-board witnesses. Observations from the cafeteria can also be pretty accurate. As they say, "best mates stand ashore"

PS: it surprises me to read here so little after the massive (relatively speaking :D) expansion of scheduled flights out of ANR. And a lot of ad-hoc chartering also these last couple of days…

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Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport:Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Marseille
Flight number: SN 3597
Aircraft: RJ 100
LF:86 passengers boarded ( 89%)

Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: FARO
Flight number: SN 3801
Aircraft:Airbus 320
LF: 146 passengers boarded ( 87%)

Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport:Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Malaga
Flight number: SN 3735
Aircraft:Airbus 320
LF: 156 passengers boarded ( 93%)

Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Barcelona
Flight number: SN 3703
Aircraft:Airbus 319
LF: 119 passengers boarded ( 84%)

Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Venice
Flight number: SN 3205
Aircraft:Airbus 319
LF: 127 passengers boarded ( 90%)

Date:05.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport:Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Madrid
Flight number: SN 3727
Aircraft:Airbus 319
LF: 105 passengers boarded ( 75%) I was on board

Date:07.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Madrid
Flight number: SN 3727
Aircraft:Airbus 320
LF: 146 passengers deboarded ( 87%)


Date:07.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport:Madrid
Arrival airport: Brussels Airport
Flight number: SN 3722
Aircraft:Airbus 320
LF: 155 passengers boarded ( 92%) I was on board (3 on Bizz and Class and 8 on Flex and Fast)

Date:07.06.2015
Airline: Brussels Airlines
Departure airport: Brussels Airport
Arrival airport: Geneva
Flight number: SN 2719
Aircraft:Airbus 319
LF: 127 passengers boarded ( 90%)

Not too bad...and on the flight MAD BRU a lot of connecting pax to Bristol, Manchester, Gothenburg, Copenhagen, Vienna, Geneva, Bolonia...










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