I think that little plane in the middle of the the foreground (please don't shoot me for not knowing what it is) can easily be stuffed into the cargo hold of the A380 in the background. Without disassembly.
Good guess , but the E-fan (electric plane) of EADS is 16 cm to long to fit in the A380 without disassembly
A380 max. inside width = 6.54 m.
EADS E-Fan length = 6.70 m.
No sales yet, but an ATR press conference: total sales of 173 aircraft, including 83 firm orders, representing $4.1 billion. The best Paris Air Show in ATR’s history! Turboprop renaissance due to high fuel costs?
Hong Kong Aviation Capital signs a MOU for 40 A320neo and 20 A321neo in last-minute deal.
US budget carrier Spirit Airlines orders 20 more A321 current engine option aircraft, and converts 10 existing orders of A320s to A321s.
United Airlines orders 10 A350-1000 aircraft, and converts previous order for 25 -900s to -1000 model. It looks like United's future fleet will see the 777-200ER replaced by the 787-10, and the 747-400 by the A350-1000s.
Thus Airbus secured commitments for 466 aircraft worth about $69billion during Paris Air Show. Airbus has signed MoUs for 225 aircraft worth $29.4bn during PAS, plus firm orders for 241 aircraft worth $39.3bn! Airbus' sales this year have already reached 758 on an annual target of 800. Airbus' Leahy says delivery slots for small orders (circa 5) are now as far out as 2020, that's both for single aisles and widebodies.
Airbus' John Leahy says customers have already asked for a stretched A380!
What counts is firm orders so thats valid info, MOUs are just fluff.
Also what counts is aircraft produced, not sales in the que (you get paid for a delivered aircraft).
Boeing is ramping up to 14 787s a month as well as continue sale of the 767 that will be ramping back up as well.
Question is when will the 787 impact the A330 (and will Airbus finally respond with a redesign of it to maintain something in that sector?) NEO that Air Asia talks about (and wouldn't that make P&W happy!)
And Boeing is working up to put out an eye popping 63 737s a month with the line additions and shuffles of the line over the next few years
What has yet to be proven is the A350 as one flight proves zip. There is so much structure changes from number 1 through 17 that something like 70% of the structure changes.
So, even before it gets rolling by line number 20 you have an all new aircraft that has not been static tested (extrapolated which is allowed). I believe that there are going to be some big issues show up as time goes by.
bollox wrote:When did the 350 make its second flight? There was a lot of hooha that it should have been yesterday,but I dont find references on aviation fora
He shows great respect for both Airbus and Boeing and praises the man in Leahy.
Also, SUH said that the B787-10 will achieve a 40% trip fuel burn reduction over the A340-300.
SUH shows a bit of lack of knowledge here given that the numbers he's talking about are impossible and no airline is going to fall for that.
In reality, 25% will be a better estimate.
I had hoped that Airbus would not resort to something as irresponsible as to do a fly by with what amounts to an experimental aircraft on its third flight. Amazing.
Same ones who did the buzz some years back and took the thing into the trees.
RC20 wrote:I had hoped that Airbus would not resort to something as irresponsible as to do a fly by with what amounts to an experimental aircraft on its third flight. Amazing.
Same ones who did the buzz some years back and took the thing into the trees.
RC20 wrote:I had hoped that Airbus would not resort to something as irresponsible as to do a fly by with what amounts to an experimental aircraft on its third flight. Amazing.
Same ones who did the buzz some years back and took the thing into the trees.
And quite the buzz it was indeed
FWIW, it's an airshow and it should stay like that! Otherwise it should be called "Paris Dull Static Exhibition 2013"
