Fire crew strike halts all flights at BRU - strike ended

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 13:43

teddybAIR wrote:By the way,

They put the old BIAC website online instead of the new brusselsairport site. Did the new one crash and is this the back-up solution due to higher traffic? Is anyone clued in on ?

The old site is less heavy, so probably that will be the reason. It's a right thing to do if they want to inform as many people as possible. BAA also has a kind of "light" website they use in case of problems at their airports.

Kind regards,
Sebabstian

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 13 Apr 2007, 13:45

cherdt wrote:
Aldgate wrote:Last i heard was that the FD didn't start the strike but they joined it to support their colleagues from security.
That is **TUUT** ! ! ! ! I can't imagine this to be true.

It is what was said by the strikers at the news on RTL-TVI at 1300.
Security personnel strike for rather obscure reasons related to promotions and management; FD to support them and also, when they are at it, to get some bonuses for themselves.
It was also said that flights are diverted to CRL, LGG, OST and ANR. A good day for the spotters over there...

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 13 Apr 2007, 13:57

Stella_Caeli wrote:Closure extended until 1500z.
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VALID : WEF:0915 UTC UNTIL:1500 UTC +++++
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TFC : ARRIVING AND DEPARTING EBBR

LH 4608 with ETA 16:25 is cancelled. Apparently the operators think the strike will last longer then 15:00. In this case: how can this be 'force majeure'? The airline decideds to cancel a flight which arrives only at 16:25 while information currently says the airport will only be closed until 15:00?! There is clearly someone on the airline side who took the decision to cancel this flight, as in this case, they still have the choice

Regards,
Tom

Post by **speedbird1** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:05

A couple of 146's have dropped into CRL.

Ems

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:05

teddybAIR wrote:
Stella_Caeli wrote:Closure extended until 1500z.
.
VALID : WEF:0915 UTC UNTIL:1500 UTC +++++
.
TFC : ARRIVING AND DEPARTING EBBR
LH 4608 with ETA 16:25 is cancelled. Apparently the operators think the strike will last longer then 15:00. In this case: how can this be 'force majeure'? The airline decideds to cancel a flight which arrives only at 16:25 while information currently says the airport will only be closed until 15:00?! There is clearly someone on the airline side who took the decision to cancel this flight, as in this case, they still have the choice

Regards,
Tom

Be careful not to mix up local and UTC time.

LH4608 has ETA 1625 local time, or 1425 UTC.
The regulation is valid until 1500 UTC = 1700 local time.

So the ETA of LH4608 is situated before the end of the regulation.

Just came in:

INDUSTRIAL ACTION BY FIRE-BRIGADE BRUSSELS AIRPORT
.
EBBR AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED BY NOTAM UNTIL 1300 UTC, BUT WE
HAVE CLOSED IT BY OUR REGULATIONS EBBRA12A (ARRIVALS) AND EBBRD13
(DEPARTURES) UNTIL 1500 UTC. WE HAVE HAD TO DO THIS DUE TO THE
LATE NOTIFICATION OF THE STRIKE EXTENSIONS. THIS PREVENTS A/C
GETTING AIRBOURNE FOR EBBR WHILE IT IS STILL CLOSED AND HAVING TO
DIVERT.
.
FMD OPS BRUSSELS.

No slots are assigned to flights departing from EBBR, and flights departing for EBBR during a period in which a zero-rate regulation is active.

Kind regards,
Sebastian

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:10

Incredible !! We haven't seen such a mess for years in Zaventem !! Since Sabena's demise ???
Anyway, I will not judge the strike and its reasons, but it's a very very SAD day again for Belgian Civil Aviation...

FB.

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:34

Some Planes of jetairfly and thomas cook are trying to lift off empty and to pick up passengers which were bussed to Liège.

Post by **luchtzak** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:35

Stella_Caeli wrote:INDUSTRIAL ACTION BY FIRE-BRIGADE BRUSSELS AIRPORT
.
EBBR AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED BY NOTAM UNTIL 1300 UTC, BUT WE
HAVE CLOSED IT BY OUR REGULATIONS EBBRA12A (ARRIVALS) AND EBBRD13
(DEPARTURES) UNTIL 1500 UTC. WE HAVE HAD TO DO THIS DUE TO THE
LATE NOTIFICATION OF THE STRIKE EXTENSIONS. THIS PREVENTS A/C
GETTING AIRBOURNE FOR EBBR WHILE IT IS STILL CLOSED AND HAVING TO
DIVERT.

Teletekst mentions that all flights have been delayed till 1500 (Belgian time), according to this messages the earliest departure out of Brussels would be 1700 (Belgian time). Correct me if I am wrong?

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:36

New delays.

INDUSTRIAL ACTION BY FIRE-BRIGADE BRUSSELS AIRPORT
.
EBBR AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED BY NOTAM UNTIL 1400 UTC, BUT WE
HAVE CLOSED IT BY OUR REGULATIONS EBBRA12A (ARRIVALS) AND EBBRD13
(DEPARTURES) UNTIL 1600 UTC. WE HAVE HAD TO DO THIS DUE TO THE
LATE NOTIFICATION OF THE STRIKE EXTENSIONS. THIS PREVENTS A/C
GETTING AIRBORNE FOR EBBR WHILE IT IS STILL CLOSED AND HAVING TO
DIVERT.
.
FMD OPS BRUSSELS.

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 14:38

luchtzak wrote:
Stella_Caeli wrote:INDUSTRIAL ACTION BY FIRE-BRIGADE BRUSSELS AIRPORT
.
EBBR AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED BY NOTAM UNTIL 1300 UTC, BUT WE
HAVE CLOSED IT BY OUR REGULATIONS EBBRA12A (ARRIVALS) AND EBBRD13
(DEPARTURES) UNTIL 1500 UTC. WE HAVE HAD TO DO THIS DUE TO THE
LATE NOTIFICATION OF THE STRIKE EXTENSIONS. THIS PREVENTS A/C
GETTING AIRBOURNE FOR EBBR WHILE IT IS STILL CLOSED AND HAVING TO
DIVERT.
Teletekst mentions that all flights have been delayed till 1500 (Belgian time), according to this messages the earliest departure out of Brussels would be 1700 (Belgian time). Correct me if I am wrong?

The regulations only apply to departing flights that need a CFMU slot (most of the traffic in EBBR). They will only get a departure slot after the regulation expires or after the regulation is lifted before it expires. I have to emphasize that indeed a regulation can be cancelled before it expires, so if this happens, slots can be assigned before the current end of the regulation (1600z).

Mirror · Post by **Mirror** » 13 Apr 2007, 15:08

The old biac site back online.I can see the ac types again !

www.biac.be

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 13 Apr 2007, 15:23

additionally, the fueling company BAS does no fuelling as no fire-services available

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 13 Apr 2007, 15:56

Ok, why not end this strike now? I think the message is clear...

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:03

New delays announced.

INDUSTRIAL ACTION BY FIRE-BRIGADE BRUSSELS AIRPORT
.
EBBR AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED UNTIL 1500 UTC, THE REGULATIONS
EBBRA13A (ARRIVALS) AND EBBRD13 (DEPARTURES) PREVENT AIRCRAFT
ARRIVING OR DEPARTING UNTIL 1700 UTC. THIS IS NECESSARY DUE TO
THE LATE NOTIFICATION OF THE STRIKE EXTENSIONS. THIS AVOIDS A/C
GETTING AIRBORNE FOR EBBR WHILE IT IS STILL CLOSED AND BEING
FORCED TO DIVERT.
.
FMD OPS BRUSSELS.

Phatius · Post by **Phatius** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:04

SN2304 from BMA just touched down (15.56lt), so can we assume the airport is open again?

No new notams for an extension of the strike, so let's hope it's finished!

Grtz,
Phatius

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:06

The security agents agreed with the proposals made by Brussels Airport but the firebrigade didn't so both of them continue to strike. B.air is looking for compensations because of the great financial and image loss. (VRT radio news 16h)

Post by **sn26567** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:25

An SN flight from Stockholm (SN2304 ARJ100) landed 15:58.

Strange flight numbers for SN flights re-routed to Liège:

13-04 16:20 SN93UT VIENNE 16:22 LANDED
13-04 16:10 SN91RY VENIZIA 16:26 LANDED
13-04 16:19 SN58UU MARSEILLE 16:30 LANDED

and to Charleroi:

13-04 9:00 Paris-Charles de Gaulle DAT3630 9:20
13-04 16:30 Marseille-Marignane DAT58UU ?

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:45

Strike has been ended at 16.30!

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 13 Apr 2007, 16:47

IND ACTION FIRE-BRIGADE EBBR AIRPORT - UPDATE 10 -
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EBBR AIRPORT IS NOW ACCEPTING TRAFFIC AS FROM 1430 UTC. ARRIVING
AND DEPARTING REGULATIONS (EBBRA13A AND EBBRD13) WILL STAY IN
FORCETO BE ABLE TO COPE WITH HIGH DEMAND. PLEASE ENSURE ALL EOBTS
ARE ACCURATE AND UPDATED
.
FMD OPS BRUSSELS.

Post by **sn26567** » 13 Apr 2007, 17:15

Jetairfly and Thomas Cook Airlines have re-routed several flights to Liège. They also tried to ferry empty from Brussels to Liège.

VLM Airlines is rerouting its Brussels flights to Antwerp.

Charleroi (BSCA) has received flights from Swiss (1), Brussels Airlines (4), Royal Air Maroc (1), Air Algérie (1). Many flights went back empty, but one of the Brussels Airlines planes took off to Athens and the Royal Air Maroc to Casablanca and the Air Algérie to Algiers both carried passengers which were hauled from Brussels by Coach. Because of the current traffic, BSCA could not accept more flights.

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Fire crew strike halts all flights at BRU - strike ended

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