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ElcoB wrote:French offer to evacuate Belgians (From VRT Flandersnews)

A ferry is expected to arrive in Lebanon on Monday. French, Belgian and Italian nationals will be taken to Cyprus.
France chartered the ferry in Greece. The ship can take up to 1,000 passengers.

Belgian Airbus to Cyprus

Belgium is sending an air force Airbus C310 to Cyprus. The aircraft will be used to ferry evacuees to France, Belgium and Italy.

The Belgian Defence Minister, André Flahaut (French-speaking socialist), says that a first flight from Melsbroek Airbase (Flemish Brabant) to Larnaca in Cyprus is scheduled for Tuesday.
Stangely enough, one has not yet seen Fat Flahaut parading as usual before the TV news cameras nor aboard an Air Flahaut flight - of course, it's a real war this time...
Fortunately, the French navy (from Beyrout) and the Italian Air Force C130 (from Damas) are on the front line to take care of the Belgian refugees.

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airazurxtror wrote:Strangely enough, one has not yet seen Fat Flahaut parading
Hm, you really think that strange? Could it be you're Wallonian? (or is it "Walloon"?) But I think I take your meaning, even if I was born Flemish.

And indeed, let us be grateful to the governments that take up their inherent responsability. With all my disregard for Paris I must allow: when things get smelly, la Marianne est là! But then again, the Belgian C310 (sic!) presence is a fine statement too.

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ElcoB wrote:The Belgian Defence Minister, André Flahaut (French-speaking socialist), says that a first flight from Melsbroek Airbase (Flemish Brabant) to Larnaca in Cyprus is scheduled for Tuesday.
Sorry to call you to order, but the political and linguistic connotations of your post do not belong to this forum.

Other interventions on this forum are also becoming too political. Please stick to aviation matters, else we archive this thread.
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At last some wise words.
Both parties are behaving like children anyway (that is in the Middle East).

Does anybody know where I can find info about aircraft landing in Damascus and Larnaca? I suppose all companies are flying much bigger aircraft into Syria's capital and Cyprus now due to closing of BEY and evac of citizens.

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2 questions :
about the runway:estimating time to repair?
About the terminal : Whe know a partial destruiction, but IF we come to the end of the confrontation and at last one runway can be used, is the terminal raedy for "light" traffic?

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SN30952 wrote:
TWA wrote:Does anybody know where I can find info about aircraft landing in Damascus and Larnaca?
Yes
Damascus International Airport is a joint type airport (Civil and Military).
Runways
ID Dimensions Surface PCN ILS
05R/23L 3600 x 45 meters ASPHALT 069RCWT NO
05L/23R CLOSED 3000 x 45 meters

View Damascus and Aleppo Airport schedule HERE

From there I suggest you go to the airlines websites, for flights en route info?

zoomable map and see also DAM

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Post by chunk »

I suspect that the way things are spiralling out of control Damascus airport runways will have a few holes in them soon enough.

This madness has to stop - the G8 (especially - a pathetic bunch of spineless b*stards) and ALL world leaders should be hanging their collective heads in shame that it has been allowed to get to this - and continue.

Political rant over.

Well kind of - I see we are being warned about not spouting political beliefs on this site. Fine. No problem.

Does that include just countries outwith the EU or does advocating racist / facist political parties within European countries not count. If it does count then I suggest you go looking around some of the forums as unless the signature changes it is very much still there.......I am not going to say who, what and how - just look at peoples signatures and work it out. ANd no they haven;t posted in this topic I dont think.......

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I am certainly no sympathiser of Israel, but they need to defend themselves. The Lebanese government is not headquartered in Beruit, but with Hezbollah. The Beruit government is weak and they are strong; Beruit can not control them and their actions; in effect, Hezbollah is the real Lebanon government.

It is a shame that Israel's options are limited and they have to attack infrastructure.

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smokejumper wrote:..............
It is a shame that Israel's options are limited and they have to attack infrastructure.
See my previous post:
We all have choices in life. We can educate, or promote ignorance. Reach out, or build walls. Live together or annihilate. Accept humility or prove our might. Be decent or be ugly.

~Anyone who tells you they have no choice but to drop a bomb is lying to you.

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sn26567 wrote: Sorry to call you to order, but the political and linguistic connotations of your post do not belong to this forum.
Sorry, I didn't make it clear this was the text from the VRT themselves, in a rather odd message. I fully agree with your remark.

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blackhawk wrote:
ElcoB wrote:French offer to evacuate Belgians [
Belgium is sending an air force Airbus C310 to Cyprus. The aircraft will be used to ferry evacuees to France, Belgium and Italy.
cool, a new aircraft type!
Now, it's already an A130 according to De Standaard :?
http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail. ... 072006_013

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BA suspends flights to damascus, flight of last night was diverted to amman last minute pax had to take a bus from amman to damascus..suspension until further notice...
Austrian airlines almost doubled their frequency into damascus .. word is only very expensive business class tickets available out of dam on austrian.
Gulf air triple daily out of damascus incoming trafic is zero, according to gulf air agents in damascus..departure of of damascus full..
I know that some people managed to find seats on emirates to dubai short notice flat tarrif USD 500 one way or USD 1000 return...seems some airlines are in this for making a buck..specially austrian airlines..(rather cheap i find)..MEA has been endorsing all tickets and putting its stranded passengers on other carriers to destinations of their choice regardless of fare paid..and that from a carrier whose home base is devestated

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A few A380s would come in very handy right now, even - or especially - in cattle (853 seat) config.

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b720 wrote:BA suspends flights to damascus, flight of last night was diverted to amman last minute pax had to take a bus from amman to damascus..suspension until further notice...
Austrian airlines almost doubled their frequency into damascus .. word is only very expensive business class tickets available out of dam on austrian.
Gulf air triple daily out of damascus incoming trafic is zero, according to gulf air agents in damascus..departure of of damascus full..
I know that some people managed to find seats on emirates to dubai short notice flat tarrif USD 500 one way or USD 1000 return...seems some airlines are in this for making a buck..specially austrian airlines..(rather cheap i find)..MEA has been endorsing all tickets and putting its stranded passengers on other carriers to destinations of their choice regardless of fare paid..and that from a carrier whose home base is devestated
So what do BA know that no-one else does? Probably nothing as I have been burned by BA's super conservative policy before. Stopping in LArnaca on flights to DUbai during the start of the Iraq war eventhough there was no danger there whatsoever.

As for MEA - dont be surprised if the Arab carriers especially are not being too difficult to deal with in the current situation.

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well you might be right about BA. as for Arab carriers they seem to be making a few bucks too...USD 1000 DAMASCUS-DUBAI without all charges and taxes is not really charity..MEA is not operating as its hub is under attack its fleet grounded..millions of USD losses per day and still they make sure that all their passengers are reimbursed or endorsed...that is what i would call "chic"....they could have shut their offices and hid in the shelters instead..

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Anybody else just saw the news on "één". According to the news anchor a C-130 had just landed carrying the evacuated Belgians and people of other countries at Melsbroek.

Now, either the Belgian Army has fitted their C-130's with jet engines and winglets, or that was an A310 I saw taxiing by... When will journalists ever learn :roll: :lol:

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b720 wrote:well you might be right about BA. as for Arab carriers they seem to be making a few bucks too...USD 1000 DAMASCUS-DUBAI without all charges and taxes is not really charity..MEA is not operating as its hub is under attack its fleet grounded..millions of USD losses per day and still they make sure that all their passengers are reimbursed or endorsed...that is what i would call "chic"....they could have shut their offices and hid in the shelters instead..
Well the so-called ship- side-sales SSS are always the best revenue.
I must say I have also applied the SSS-fares for Sabena in Africa in the '80.

The system is simple.
You wanted to go to MUC. The sales was eg in EBB, then you paid the OW-fare MUC-EBB in DMK in the pre-Euro era.
How do you proceed in such circumstances?
For all the empty seats you issue a boarding pass after cancelling all the commercial upgradings. You have a number of boarding passes in C-class, in Y-class. At your ticketing desk you announce the number of passes for sale and start listing. On first come, first pay, first serve you issue the documents. That's SSS-procedure.
Your aircraft would leave asap, that means as soon as all pax and luggage where on board.

Do not forget, as airline manager you were with the ones that stayed behind, the money would travel with the 'ship' to base.

When the aircraft climbed in the air, you had water in your hands and try mouth, when you heard far away gunshots at the airplane...

I remember, after such a departure, I went home, it was curfew, there were no lights. When I got home, the house came under fire, and bullets rained on the roof. That were the moments you wondered why you did that job, and if it were not safer to be a fireman in Belgium.
In the same week, I got shot at nn the way to the airport, the car got a hit, I landed it off road in the high elephant grass.

It is an unwritten rule that is such cases all coupons are endorsed. Sooner or later you hoop the passenger will come back

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SN30952 wrote:You wanted to go to MUC. The sales was eg in EBB, then you paid the OW-fare MUC-EBB in DMK in the pre-Euro era.
With a bit of trouble I could find out MUC stands for München, Bayern, and EBB for Entebbe/Kampala, Uganda. But where the heck is DMK? And if the sale happens in Uganda, why did one have to go and pay in this mistery place? And what does OW stand for? oost-west perhaps?
Allow me to insist once more: codes and abbreviations should be used sparingly, for the sake of clarity. And it is nice to explain them, perhaps between brackets or in a footnote.

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b-west wrote:Anybody else just saw the news on "één". According to the news anchor a C-130 had just landed carrying the evacuated Belgians and people of other countries at Melsbroek.

Now, either the Belgian Army has fitted their C-130's with jet engines and winglets, or that was an A310 I saw taxiing by... When will journalists ever learn :roll: :lol:

We're almost there: Belga (Belgium's largest press agency) now mentions it's a A130. One more step to go...

http://misc.skynet.be/index.html?l1=act ... e&p1=73901

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an we have again a new type in the fleet:
vrtnieuws wrote:De militaire Airbus A130 is enkele minuten voor 19 uur geland op de militaire luchthaven van Melsbroek.

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