It is official. Airbus made up the gap in the 4th Quarter and beat Boeing in orders. A320 family outsold B737 almost 2 to 1. However, A340 only received 15 orders, and the A350 target of 200 wasn't met in 2005.
http://www.flightinternational.com/Arti ... tback.html
2005 order book - Airbus beats Boeing
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I think one must be carefull with this kind of information.
According to Justplanes, which has kept a secure record of all the orders/commitments for the year 2005, Boeing lead with 1034 orders/commitments against 812 orders/commitments for Airbus.
In another article of Flight International (10/01/2006) it is said that Boeing had beaten Airbus with 1029 gross orders against 687 gross orders for Airbus (november). According to the same article Airbus had secured at least 100 firm orders in december (which makes a total of about 787 orders at the end of the year.
It is mentioned that Airbus could perhaps realize about 400 (?) outstanding commitments into firm orders.
So far, so good. Seems to me that Boeing (according to Flight International) had no outstanding commitments and Airbus had a more than 60% realization of their outstanding commitments.
I'm not sure but I find this hard to believe, and perhaps at the end of 2006 they also count these realizations in their figures of 2006...
According to Justplanes, which has kept a secure record of all the orders/commitments for the year 2005, Boeing lead with 1034 orders/commitments against 812 orders/commitments for Airbus.
In another article of Flight International (10/01/2006) it is said that Boeing had beaten Airbus with 1029 gross orders against 687 gross orders for Airbus (november). According to the same article Airbus had secured at least 100 firm orders in december (which makes a total of about 787 orders at the end of the year.
It is mentioned that Airbus could perhaps realize about 400 (?) outstanding commitments into firm orders.
So far, so good. Seems to me that Boeing (according to Flight International) had no outstanding commitments and Airbus had a more than 60% realization of their outstanding commitments.
I'm not sure but I find this hard to believe, and perhaps at the end of 2006 they also count these realizations in their figures of 2006...
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While Airbus outsold Boeing in terms of numbers of aircraft, Boeing outsold Airbus in terms of financial value. Boeing sold a larger number of more profitable wide-bodies, while Airbus sold more less-profitable single aisle planes.
Who won the annual competition? It depends on what your are counting. As for me, I'll vote for financially sound companies that generate profits.
Who won the annual competition? It depends on what your are counting. As for me, I'll vote for financially sound companies that generate profits.
fftopic: Justplanes is probably the lousiest source there is for order comparisons: they regularly forget to count orders, or count orders that haven't been signed yet. Their numbers don't mean a thing.According to Justplanes, which has kept a secure record of all the orders/commitments for the year 2005, Boeing lead with 1034 orders/commitments against 812 orders/commitments for Airbus.
As for the numbers not being 'real'. They are. You can go to airbus.com and download the orders and deliveries spreadsheet there. It'll tell you exactly who ordered what, how many, and when. There's no 'tricks' to be played with this.
