False hi-jacking alarm on an Air Europa Airbus A330 at Amsterdam Schiphol

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by lucas » 06 Nov 2019, 20:31

Aviation24 already posted an article following reports of an incident at Amsterdam Schiphol airport.
Now I read on Facebook following reaction on an article from a Belgian newspaper:
Er is een kaping aan de gang op Schiphol. Drie mensen met een mes bedreigen het kabine personeel en eisen vertrek v B737.
*KLU actions*
F16 (QRA 2x) zojuist opgestegen om eventuele maatregelen te nemen.
*Other actions*
- Arrestatieteam is onderweg.
- Grote paniek in het vliegtuig.
In English: Three people tried to hijack an aircraft (but he states it is a B737 instead of an A330 as said in the article of Aviation24).
The person states in an other reaction that he heard this from a friend of him working at Amsterdam.
I don't know what to believe of what he sais, but it is clear there is something serious happening!

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... on-issued/

EDIT: Now I also saw tweets passing by of people stating that it is an attempt to hijack

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by lucas » 06 Nov 2019, 20:38

It seems that the captian of the flight (UX1094, Air Europa) used the hijack code (code500). He did this during boarding, 27 passengers and the crew were already onboard. Boarding stopped. There is no contact with the captain. (tweet posted 8:07pm)

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False hi-jacking alarm on an Air Europa Airbus A330 at Amsterdam Schiphol

Post by jan_olieslagers » 06 Nov 2019, 20:43

hm, can we still classify this story under the "trivia"?
It seems that the captian of the flight (UX1094, Air Europa) used the hijack code (code500).
(and, if some gentle degree of notpocking may be allowed, instead of "code 500" perhaps "squawk 7500" would be clearer/more appropriate?)
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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by Passenger » 06 Nov 2019, 20:44

Dutch public broadcaster NOS reports that all (27) passengers and the crew have safely disembarked.

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by lucas » 06 Nov 2019, 20:46

jan_olieslagers wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 20:43
hm, can we still classify this story under the "trivia"?

(and, if some gentle degree of notpocking may be allowed, instead of "code 500" perhaps "squawk 7500" would be more appropriate?)
This might indeed fit better in a new topic.
Can one of the moderators make a new one, and place these posts in the new topic?
I have some kind of a feeling that there will be said a lot about this event...

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by lucas » 06 Nov 2019, 20:49

Update: crew and passengers safely got off the aircraft


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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by Passenger » 06 Nov 2019, 21:00

#AirEuropa Info Falsa Alarma. En el vuelo Ámsterdam - Madrid, esta tarde se activó, por error, un aviso que pone en marcha protocolos sobre secuestros en el aeropuerto. No ha pasado nada, todos los pasajeros se encuentran perfectamente esperando poder volar pronto. Lo lamentamos.

Air Europa says: sorry guys, someone in the cockpit pushed a wrong button.

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by luchtzak » 06 Nov 2019, 21:03

lucas wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 20:38
It seems that the captian of the flight (UX1094, Air Europa) used the hijack code (code500). He did this during boarding, 27 passengers and the crew were already onboard. Boarding stopped. There is no contact with the captain. (tweet posted 8:07pm)
Indeed, an error with huge consequences....

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... on-issued/

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by jan_olieslagers » 06 Nov 2019, 21:10

Mooohahaha! if that was the case, really, the messages can well remain in the "trivia" thread.

And of course it is all too cheap too ridicule others' errors, still this poor amateur pilot has well learned the lesson to first "standby" the transponder, then set the new squawk, then "un-standby". But yes, of course, shit happens, all of us make errors sooner or later, and let us be happy that nothing worse happened.

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by PttU » 06 Nov 2019, 21:56

If it's just a "wrong button pushed", where did the rumour (on Twitter etc: https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statu ... 2250992642) about 3 men with knives come from... That's oddly specific.
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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by 737MAX » 06 Nov 2019, 21:58

jan_olieslagers wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 21:10
Mooohahaha! if that was the case, really, the messages can well remain in the "trivia" thread.

And of course it is all too cheap too ridicule others' errors, still this poor amateur pilot has well learned the lesson to first "standby" the transponder, then set the new squawk, then "un-standby". But yes, of course, shit happens, all of us make errors sooner or later, and let us be happy that nothing worse happened.
One very basic principle in a cockpit; always crosscheck your actions.
You would be surprised by the amount of pilots who transmit on 121.500 and insist while they think they are transmitting on VHF2 with ops/company frequency...

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by jan_olieslagers » 06 Nov 2019, 22:01

always crosscheck your actions
Ha! That's easy to say if you're always two in the cockpit ;) !
Too much cross-checking one's self can lead to nasty damage to the brain, so my AME warned me ....

(AME: "aviation medical examiner", the doctor who delivers one's medical "fit to fly" certificate).

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by 737MAX » 06 Nov 2019, 22:13

jan_olieslagers wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 22:01
Ha! That's easy to say if you're always two in the cockpit ;) !
Too much cross-checking one's self can lead to nasty damage to the brain, so my AME warned me ....

(AME: "aviation medical examiner", the doctor who delivers one's medical "fit to fly" certificate).
If you are all by yourself, you cannot count on a 2nd invisible pilot to cross check your gear is extended, right? That's the same for every action you do, if you transmit on 121.5 you cannot expect the 2nd pilot will notice it for you. Sure that will be helpful if he does, but you still have to think he will not ;-)

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by jan_olieslagers » 06 Nov 2019, 22:17

you cannot count on a 2nd invisible pilot to cross check your gear is extended, right?
Sure, but it does help to fly a fixed-gear plane ;) In all seriousness, though, you are of course entirely right.


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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by FkBE » 07 Nov 2019, 20:37

lucas wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 20:31
Aviation24 already posted an article following reports of an incident at Amsterdam Schiphol airport.
Now I read on Facebook following reaction on an article from a Belgian newspaper:
Er is een kaping aan de gang op Schiphol. Drie mensen met een mes bedreigen het kabine personeel en eisen vertrek v B737.
*KLU actions*
F16 (QRA 2x) zojuist opgestegen om eventuele maatregelen te nemen.
*Other actions*
- Arrestatieteam is onderweg.
- Grote paniek in het vliegtuig.
In English: Three people tried to hijack an aircraft (but he states it is a B737 instead of an A330 as said in the article of Aviation24).
The person states in an other reaction that he heard this from a friend of him working at Amsterdam.
I don't know what to believe of what he sais, but it is clear there is something serious happening!

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... on-issued/

EDIT: Now I also saw tweets passing by of people stating that it is an attempt to hijack
Hello,
Could you please share the Facebook source of that original message indicating 3 knifemen?
I'm interested to further investigate where this fake news comes from. It is very specific and obviously made up. Same applies to "great panic onboard". Chances are people did not even know what was happening.

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Re: Trivia 2019 (miscellaneous news)

Post by lucas » 07 Nov 2019, 21:44

FkBE wrote:
07 Nov 2019, 20:37
lucas wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 20:31
Aviation24 already posted an article following reports of an incident at Amsterdam Schiphol airport.
Now I read on Facebook following reaction on an article from a Belgian newspaper:
Er is een kaping aan de gang op Schiphol. Drie mensen met een mes bedreigen het kabine personeel en eisen vertrek v B737.
*KLU actions*
F16 (QRA 2x) zojuist opgestegen om eventuele maatregelen te nemen.
*Other actions*
- Arrestatieteam is onderweg.
- Grote paniek in het vliegtuig.
In English: Three people tried to hijack an aircraft (but he states it is a B737 instead of an A330 as said in the article of Aviation24).
The person states in an other reaction that he heard this from a friend of him working at Amsterdam.
I don't know what to believe of what he sais, but it is clear there is something serious happening!

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/amst ... on-issued/

EDIT: Now I also saw tweets passing by of people stating that it is an attempt to hijack
Hello,
Could you please share the Facebook source of that original message indicating 3 knifemen?
I'm interested to further investigate where this fake news comes from. It is very specific and obviously made up. Same applies to "great panic onboard". Chances are people did not even know what was happening.
https://www.facebook.com/luchtvaartnieuws/
It's one of the reactions on the first out of three articles (at19:58) posted on this facebook-page. The reaction is written by Wouter Debruyne. You'll see it.

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Re: False hi-jacking alarm on an Air Europa Airbus A330 at Amsterdam Schiphol

Post by luchtzak » 07 Nov 2019, 21:54

This is a quicker link, directly to the Facebook comment: https://www.facebook.com/luchtvaartnieu ... 6102277842

Wouter Debruyne wrote:
*Situatuin*
Er is een kaping aan de gang op Schiphol. Drie mensen met een mes bedreigen het kabine personeel en eisen vertrek v B737.
*KLU actions*
F16 (QRA 2x) zojuist opgestegen om eventuele maatregelen te nemen.
*Other actions*
- Arrestatieteam is onderweg.
- Grote paniek in het vliegtuig.
He comments that his source is a colleague of him:
Tim Huijsman collega van mij
Hijacking with three people with knifes, threatening cabin crew and request the departure of the Boeing 737 ?

2 F-16's scrambled ?

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Re: False hi-jacking alarm on an Air Europa Airbus A330 at Amsterdam Schiphol

Post by FkBE » 08 Nov 2019, 08:48

Very interesting... This is fake news being created right under our nose and suprising to see how quickly it is taken over as confirmed.

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