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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by BAAV » 09 Jun 2018, 18:06

Five minute video on Air Belgium with various interviews during the inaugural flights
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/06/08 ... -de-lucht/

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by domtom » 09 Jun 2018, 22:11

Good for them. They really believe in their product so wish them well.

There were 50 Chinese passengers on the return. But any more? And/or cargo?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by kly » 09 Jun 2018, 23:12

domtom wrote:
09 Jun 2018, 22:11
Good for them. They really believe in their product so wish them well.

There were 50 Chinese passengers on the return. But any more? And/or cargo?
I don't think they'll have cargo because at the vrtnews Niki mentioned that they can't bring any cargo

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 10 Jun 2018, 10:19

OO-ABA flew back from CDG to CRL this morning as AF380V. I thought the AF contract was until end-June.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by Passenger » 10 Jun 2018, 10:39

sn26567 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 10:19
OO-ABA flew back from CDG to CRL this morning as AF380V. I thought the AF contract was until end-June.
At this very moment, the Air France website still announces AF-926 as "expected to depart on time at 13h35, operated by Air Belgium".

Maybe OO-ABB will go to Paris and Libreville?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by lucas » 10 Jun 2018, 10:42

Indeed, OO-ABB is planned to fly to CDG as flight AFR382V today. On FR24 there is no hour of departure/arrival mentioned.

UPDATE: OO-ABB started taxiing at the moment when I posted this: 10h44 Local Time

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by N77014 » 10 Jun 2018, 11:03

I still don't understand what the AB "Premium" product consists of. Eco seats with more pitch ? Regular eco seats with upgraded meal service ? Flat beds but reduced service ( sounds weird though ) ? If it is a separate cabin, any pictures one can share ?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by Poiu » 10 Jun 2018, 11:28

N77014 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 11:03
I still don't understand what the AB "Premium" product consists of. Eco seats with more pitch ? Regular eco seats with upgraded meal service ? Flat beds but reduced service ( sounds weird though ) ? If it is a separate cabin, any pictures one can share ?
Have a look on AirBelgium.com, you will find all the info and pictures you need.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by N77014 » 10 Jun 2018, 12:24

Thanks, i did already many times, but IMHO, those pictures are not real. Do you see how wide the aisle is ? And the seats look like regular Eco, except with more pitch. I Think this is only an artist impression. Till now, I did not find any real picture of this separate cabin. Anyone has a hint where I could find some ?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 10 Jun 2018, 15:09

N77014 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 11:03
I still don't understand what the AB "Premium" product consists of. Eco seats with more pitch ? Regular eco seats with upgraded meal service ? Flat beds but reduced service ( sounds weird though ) ? If it is a separate cabin, any pictures one can share ?
At present there is no Premium. There 45 business class seats and 212 economy seats. But for the next season there will be 18 business class seats, 21 premium economy seats (7-across, more legroom and better meals than economy) and 265 economy seats (8-across). I hope this answers your question.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by Bralo20 » 10 Jun 2018, 19:22

So what happens if you book premium class (which is available on their site)? Do they upgrade you to business or do they throw you in cattle and are happy about the extra money they managed to get from you?

If they upgrade you to C iso throwing you into Y (which should be the case IMHO since they are selling a product they don't have and asking a premium for it) I kinda hope for KF that not to much people hear about it otherwise there's no reason to even book a C ticket. On the other hand if they throw you into cattle it should be made very clear that they don't honour what they are selling. Wouldn't want to be the guy arriving at the airport and finding out that they've put you in cattle while you paid extra, I wouldn't be very amused and probably very pissed of about it.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 10 Jun 2018, 23:59

Bralo20 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 19:22
So what happens if you book premium class (which is available on their site)? Do they upgrade you to business or do they throw you in cattle and are happy about the extra money they managed to get from you?

If they upgrade you to C iso throwing you into Y (which should be the case IMHO since they are selling a product they don't have and asking a premium for it) I kinda hope for KF that not to much people hear about it otherwise there's no reason to even book a C ticket. On the other hand if they throw you into cattle it should be made very clear that they don't honour what they are selling. Wouldn't want to be the guy arriving at the airport and finding out that they've put you in cattle while you paid extra, I wouldn't be very amused and probably very pissed of about it.
There are currently two C class sections: one with 30 seats in the front, and one with 15 seats behind the second door. The latter is considered as their Premium class. A nice upgrade, before the real Premium class is introduced for the Winter season!
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 11 Jun 2018, 09:06

This is a thread about Air Belgium, not about the use of languages in Belgium. Other posts will be removed!

At Air Belgium, 40% of the cabin crew are French-speaking, 40% Dutch-speaking and 20% of other language, mainly Chinese. And on board of each flight 5 languages are spoken: English, French, Dutch, Mandarin and Cantonese.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by Passenger » 11 Jun 2018, 12:12

Poiu wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 11:28
N77014 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 11:03
I still don't understand what the AB "Premium" product consists of. Eco seats with more pitch ? Regular eco seats with upgraded meal service ? Flat beds but reduced service ( sounds weird though ) ? If it is a separate cabin, any pictures one can share ?
Have a look on AirBelgium.com, you will find all the info and pictures you need.
N77014 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 12:24
Thanks, i did already many times, but IMHO, those pictures are not real. Do you see how wide the aisle is ? And the seats look like regular Eco, except with more pitch. I Think this is only an artist impression. Till now, I did not find any real picture of this separate cabin. Anyone has a hint where I could find some ?
Indeed, N77014: not all pictures that Air Belgium publishes, are reliable. Remember they posted a photo of a A340 at Charleroi, with a Ryanair aircraft in the background, when their aircraft were still parked at Tarbes, stripped from their Finnair outfit.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by MiStEr-T » 11 Jun 2018, 12:16

sn26567 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 23:59
There are currently two C class sections: one with 30 seats in the front, and one with 15 seats behind the second door. The latter is considered as their Premium class. A nice upgrade, before the real Premium class is introduced for the Winter season!
True with OO-ABB, you get the second C class section for Premium passagers.
With OO-ABA real Premium class in installed and ready.

(easy to see witch aircraft it is on the booking engine when they ask you to choose your seat)

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by kly » 11 Jun 2018, 20:37

Any updates on GDS?
This was one of the issues causing AB to delay their first flight.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 11 Jun 2018, 22:09

kly wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 20:37
Any updates on GDS?
This was one of the issues causing AB to delay their first flight.
I heard during the inaugural flight that negotiations were progressing.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by Passenger » 11 Jun 2018, 23:11

sn26567 wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 22:09
kly wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 20:37
Any updates on GDS?
This was one of the issues causing AB to delay their first flight.
I heard during the inaugural flight that negotiations were progressing.
Euh... Any update on IATA membership?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by simnam » 12 Jun 2018, 07:16

Could a moderator move the non-relevant messages elsewhere on the forum.

Any news on a third plane for Air Belgium ?

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Re: Air Belgium in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 12 Jun 2018, 08:22

simnam wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 07:16
Any news on a third plane for Air Belgium ?
According to L'Echo the delivery is in Mid June, and we are already the 12th of June... And still no news...
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