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Southwest Airlines (US) is removing the grounded B737 MAX 8 from its schedule for at least two more months, until 05 August 2019.
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It appears that the FAA as really leaving too much of the certification process to Boeing itself. Things start looking bad for both!
The conclusion: "Today’s reality is that when Boeing designs a new airplane, almost all the hands-on safety evaluations and tests are done by employees of Boeing or Boeing’s suppliers who are authorized to represent the FAA."
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Southwest Airlines (US) is removing the grounded B737 MAX 8 from its schedule for at least two more months, until 05 August 2019.
... and American Airlines grounds its 24 Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft until 19 August, cancelling 115 flights every day!
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A review by a U.S. Federal Aviation Administration panel into Boeing’s grounded 737 MAX aircraft found a planned software update and training revisions to be “operationally suitable,” the agency said Tuesday, an important milestone in getting the planes back in the air.

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Air Canada said its B737 MAX pilots were reviewing aircraft systems and alternative flight conditions for the grounded planes, and the carrier would decide on further training pending final recommendations from regulators.
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https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.co ... oeing-737s

Southwest showing interest in the A220!

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Icelandair in this week's schedule update removed Boeing 737 MAX 8/9 schedule until 15JUN19 inclusive.
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Removed of the schedule of Air Canada until at least August 1.
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Lessor Arctic Aviation Assets (Ireland) has reached an agreement with Boeing to postpone the delivery of 14 737 MAX aircraft originally due for delivery in 2020 and 2021.

Garuda Indonesia will swap its orders for B737 MAX 8s with other aircraft made by the company — MAX 10s and B787s. Further details will be decided later in 2019.
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The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) could clear Boeing’s 737 MAX to fly again late next month or early June, according to a person familiar with the safety agency’s latest thinking.

If the FAA gives the green light that soon — much more quickly than many analysts have predicted — airlines would still need weeks to get their planes ready and their pilots trained. But the timetable, which assumes no unforeseen developments, means U.S. carriers could have the MAX flying passengers again by early August.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... arly-june/
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"The Boeing 737 MAX is an unstable aircraft that should never be allowed to fly again":

analysis from Geert Noels (Econopolis), one of Belgium's leading economists:

https://www.tijd.be/opinie/column/leer- ... 21323.html

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737MAX wrote:
28 Apr 2019, 12:55
Passenger wrote:
28 Apr 2019, 12:31

analysis from Geert Noels (Econopolis), one of Belgium's leading economists:
Now that’s a real expert talking :lol: :lol:
I was expecting such reaction, hence I didn't add in my first post that Geert Noels is also a pilot.

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There are enough articles about the MAX from real experts to share words from a Cessna pilot (with all my respect, that doesn’t make him qualified to judge the 737MAX...). All he can say is what he thinks about it, but the title is nothing else than a click click attraction.
Geert Noels is not someone who would use a cheap title for 'click click attractions'. The title from his opinion article is "Leer uit de fouten met de Boeing 737 MAX" - translated: "Learn from the errors with the Boeing 737 MAX".

My above quote is one of the last phrases from Geert Noels' article, and the quote is an excellent summary from his analysis that the Boeing 737 MAX is an unsafe aircraft, but that huge economical interests are trying to overrule that. On top, Geert Noels apparently wrote his article before whistleblowers from inside Boeing came up with an additional problem (wiring damage to the AoA related wiring, see AvHerald.com a.o.).

(I will post a summary in English a bit later today)

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737MAX wrote:
28 Apr 2019, 14:36
Right.
I should have said you made his article a click click attraction by only quoting « the 737 MAX is an unstable aircraft that should never fly again ».

He is totally right (in my opinion at least) on the economic aspect, but his opinion on the rest shouldn’t be there at all. It’s definitely not what should be highlighted.
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Passenger wrote:
28 Apr 2019, 14:21
My above quote is one of the last phrases from Geert Noels' article, and the quote is an excellent summary from his analysis that the Boeing 737 MAX is an unsafe aircraft, but that huge economical interests are trying to overrule that. On top, Geert Noels apparently wrote his article before whistleblowers from inside Boeing came up with an additional problem (wiring damage to the AoA related wiring, see AvHerald.com a.o.).
Er werd beslist de motoren nog verder naar voren te monteren om genoeg grondruimte te behouden. Maar dat maakte het toestel inherent instabiel, vooral bij het opstijgen.

Unfortunately this single phrase shows that Mr Noels does not know the problem, and does not know what he is talking about. MCAS does not work with flaps out, so... takeoff phase? The 737 is perfectly stable. MCAS influences stick force stability in high AOA with flaps up.

If you follow his reasoning, Geert should not be on any 737-3/-4/-5/-6/-7/-8/-9/-BBJ/-MAX aircraft without feeling unsafe.

As much as respect Geert Noels for his economical knowledge, he should be aware he has limited knowledge in this subject. Next he can write pedagogic articles because he has 2 children...?
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American Airlines Group cut its 2019 profit forecast, blaming an estimated US$350 million hit from the grounding of B737 MAX planes, but said it was confident that the jets would start flying again before mid-August 2019.
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"The Boeing 737 MAX is an unstable aircraft that should never be allowed to fly again":

analysis from Geert Noels (Econopolis), one of Belgium's leading economists:

https://www.tijd.be/opinie/column/leer- ... 21323.html
And Geert Noels enters into a discussion on Twitter with Andre Berger, the chief pilot of TUI fly Belgium and a staunch defender of the 737 MAX
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