BRU summer 2011: latest news, routes, airlines

[RoMax]

Of course I know CO will be gone soon (CO aircraft are painted at a quite fast rate and one single operating certificate will come in 2012). I just ment that with the end of CO metal on the EWR route it will really be the end of CO at BRU (before all aircraft will be painted) except if CO would launch a IAH flight with a B762 or a CO B752 on one of the excisting routes before they will all be painted in the 'new United' colors. And yes I do reallize that there is only a very small chance that we will ever see a 'real' CO plane ever in BRU again after 29 September. And yes I know why UA decided to operate a UA B772 with F class to BRU. No need to explain it to me.

[tolipanebas]

Seems to me UNITED (newco) is considering BRU as a premium market in Europe; they will serve both IAD and EWR on 777 and ORD on 763, all with F class!

In contrast, AMS will see reductions in service...

STAR alliance ties are important in this of course.

[Conti764]

Seems to me UNITED (newco) is considering BRU as a premium market in Europe; they will serve both IAD and EWR on 777 and ORD on 763, all with F class!

In contrast, AMS will see reductions in service...

STAR alliance ties are important in this of course.

There is something I don't get. CO/UA will not fly under the same operating certificate untill somewhere in 2012 if MrBoeing is correct. As from september United will fly EWR-BRU under flightnumber UA960. Does this mean UA technically takes over the CO flight as from that date untill it flies under one certificate with CO thus forming the new United Airlines?

[tolipanebas]

That's what it looks like indeed.

The reason could be that they want to operate the flight with a 'real' UA 777 rather than an (ex-)CO to make use of ist bigger premium cabin and since CO and UA are not expected to operate on one AOC by then, wanting to use UA metal also means using UA crews and UA flight numbers...

[Bralo20]

There is something I don't get. CO/UA will not fly under the same operating certificate untill somewhere in 2012 if MrBoeing is correct. As from september United will fly EWR-BRU under flightnumber UA960. Does this mean UA technically takes over the CO flight as from that date untill it flies under one certificate with CO thus forming the new United Airlines?

UAL will indeed get their SOC somewhere in 2012. So effective September 29, the CO route (CO60/61) will not be operated anymore by COA but the route will be transfered from COA to UAL (but remains in the same holding company: United Continental Holdings). UAL960/961 will be the new flightnumber from that date on and chances are that that flightnumber remains after SOC. (UA/UAL will be held, CO/COA will disappear) (also Boeing customercode "24" should disappear in favour of customercode "22" but no official news about that yet)

As I remember correct all "old" branding for both companies (except the planes that need to be repainted) will vanish starting from March (or was it May?, have to look it up) as "customer day one" commences. So when UA takes over the CO route it will be allready a UA flight but operated by CO. From Sept. 29 it will be a UA flight operated by UA

[Atlantis]

Montenegro Airlines is going to start flights ex-BRU and this on 15 April. They will connect Podgorica with Brussels.

[sdbelgium]

Schedule:

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YM 370  TGD 1000  BRU 1240  100  3
YM 371  BRU 1320  TGD 1600  100  3

YM 370  TGD 0930  BRU 1210  100  5
YM 371  BRU 1250  TGD 1520  100  5

YM 370  TGD 1340  BRU 1620  100  7
YM 371  BRU 1700  TGD 1940  100  7

http://www.flightlevel.be/forum/viewtop ... 074#p14074

[sn26567]

Aeroflot Moscow Sheremetyevo – Brussels planned Increase to 11 weekly has been cancelled. The airline currently schedules 8 weekly service in Summer 2011, compared to 7 in Summer 2010.

Source: airlineroute.net

Will SN also be allowed to increase to 8 weekly? In the past they were prevented from introducing a second daily because Aeroflot could not match.

Brussels to Moscow is poorly served, when you compare to Paris (with 5 daily AF flights and 5 daily SU) or even Geneva (2 daily SU and one LX).

[sn26567]

Effective 06AUG11 EY055/056 Abu Dhabi–Brussels Day 6 service Airbus A330-300 replace A330-200.

Source: airlineroute.net

[tolipanebas]

SN is to operate the flights to HAJ itself for a short period to bridge the period between the end of wetlease of a Q400 of LH and the new wetlease holder.

[Atlantis]

Air Nostrum (Iberia) is going to start with direct flights between Brussels and San Sebastian and this twice a week on Wednesday and Sunday.

[euroflyer]

SN is to operate the flights to HAJ itself for a short period to bridge the period between the end of wetlease of a Q400 of LH and the new wetlease holder.

hm, the current wetlease is a Q400 of Augsburg Airways (LH regional), correct? If they move it to a new wetlease, does this mean the expect a RJ85 would be to big for the route (which might be correct ...)? Any idea about who will be the new wetlease holder and what type of plane they will use (bmi Embraer 145? a CRJ200 ?).

[SabenaForever]

United will reduce the flights from ORD from daily to 6 weekly from 27 March!

[airtrotter]

United will reduce the flights from ORD from daily to 6 weekly from 27 March!

I find this really strange, why cut down frequencies? summer is high demand season, no?
it seems to be the wednesday BRU-ORD flight that's gone....

[Bralo20]

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / Brussels National BE = BRU CRL [EBBR]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
SAT  09 Apr 2011 - 16 Apr 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
UA         973     BRU   11:00     ORD   13:17     763  0   12-4567     09:17       -       5   03 Apr   25 Apr

Affirmative... Seasonal downgrade... Back to daily at the start of the winter:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.9/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

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BRU  Brussels Metro / Brussels National BE = BRU CRL [EBBR]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
WED  09 Nov 2011 - 16 Nov 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
UA         973     BRU   11:00     ORD   13:15     763  0   1234567     09:15       -       5   06 Nov   25 Feb

[Bralo20]

United will reduce the flights from ORD from daily to 6 weekly from 27 March!

I find this really strange, why cut down frequencies? summer is high demand season, no?
it seems to be the wednesday BRU-ORD flight that's gone....

Actually BRU is concidered a premium market heavy for business/governmental flyers... And that business is down in the summer... That's also the reason why IAD is downgraded to a 763 during the summer.

[airtrotter]

ok, i see...and looking at the fares, they really seem to focus on the premium market.

That's also the reason why IAD is downgraded to a 763 during the summer.

AFAIK, this route remains on T7 during summer

[Bralo20]

AFAIK, this route remains on T7 during summer

Then is has changed... UA950/1 IAD-BRU-IAD was loaded as a 763 starting from end March. I'll check it tomorrow what is currently loaded for the summer.

[Atlantis]

Brussels Airports gets an other new destination.

Jetairfly is going to open a route to Santo Porto. This route will be seasonal: from 20 May till 30 September.
Route route to will be via Funchal. The route back to Brussels is direct.
Jetairfly will fly this on Monday and Friday and this with their B737-700 or -800.

Source: Luchtvaartnieuws

[SabenaForever]

Tyrolean Airways will operate the flight BRU-HAJ(Hannover) on behalf of Brussels Airlines, flight begins 27 March!

source: Luchtvaartnieuws

A little suprising.. Not yet loaded in the booking engine