lots of containers of us army at flightcare

[ups 747]

hi all.
is there anyone who can explain what is happening at the flightcare sight at brucargo for the moment.
lots of trucks from the dutch trucking company : mammoet transport are bringing large and small containers property of the united states army every day and that for 2 days already.
they are all put inside the flightcare building: small ones. the bigger ones ware unloaded outside with a special crane.for the moment about a 100 containers already.
who and what will pick them.: special transport??
where will they be send to??
who has any news about this.
grtz

luc

[Atlantis]

I have seen them also. But not only containers also a lot of heavy equipment. Maybe we can expect some heavy airplanes to transport them.

[Acid-drop]

Maybe Kalitta to bahrain ?

[ups 747]

hi

spoke today to one of the truckdrivers and he told me that an american vessel ( BIG SHIP) docked in antwerp harbor ( that's where the containers are coming from) and all those containers will be shipped by corean air to the middle east. may we believe him?
he also told me that what is at the moment at brucargo is only a small part-much,much more to come.
for the moment now about 200 containers.
lets hope they will send heavy equipment to transport to destination.
keep in touch.
grtz

luc

[Established02]

all those containers will be shipped by corean air to the middle east.

It is correct that there have been increased operations of Korean Air at BRU during the last two days. I believe KE had two flights (inbound ICN) both yesterday and today, all with similar departure times.

[cnc]

KAL always transports dangerous goods with their 744F's so its possible yes but for US army stuff i would have opted for CKS like acid-drop

[Atlantis]

Korean Air increased indeed the last couple of days their ops, temporary, with incomming flights from Frankfurt.

Maybe they are using Korean because they are flying with noseloaders. I have seen those containers and other parts and those are way too big to load via the normal cargo doors.

[Established02]

KAL always transports dangerous goods with their 744F's so its possible yes but for US army stuff i would have opted for CKS like acid-drop

No any additional K4 flights to BRU.
http://www.kalittaair.com/ (click schedule)

[YYZ727]

It would surprise me that the US army ships material via a non-US carrier....

[ups 747]

a us military carrier?
what do they have: c17 's or bigger: galaxy's if they are still flying.
what is the biggest plaine they have for shipping big material.
charter some antonov's?
yes they need indeed noseloaders-the big containers are to big for loading the normal way.

luc

[Sam V]

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[Gliderpilot]

You mean TEU containers (like they use on ships)? These things are really heavy (something like 3 tons per container), not the most efficient way for air transport...

[Frederik Peeters]

The biggest transport plaines the USAF ownes are the C-5 Galaxy's.

C-5 Galaxy:
Cargo Compartment: height , 13.5 feet (4.11 meters); width, 19 feet (5.79 meters); length, 143 feet, 9 in (43.8 meters)
Pallet Positions: 36
Maximum Cargo: 270,000 pounds (122,472 kilograms)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 769,000 pounds (348,818 kilograms) (peacetime), 840,000 pounds (381,024 kilograms) (wartime)

C-17 Globemaster:
Maximum payload capacity of the C-17 is 170,900 pounds (77,519 kilograms), and its maximum gross takeoff weight is 585,000 pounds (265,352 kilograms).

C-130 Hercules:
Maximum Takeoff Weight:
C-130E/H/J: 155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms)
C-130J-30: 164,000 pounds (74,393 kilograms)
Maximum Allowable Payload:
C-130E, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130H, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130J, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130J-30, 44,000 (19,958 kilograms)
Maximum Normal Payload:
C-130E, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
C-130H, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
C-130J, 34,000 pounds (15,422 kilograms)
C-130J-30, 36,000 pounds (16,329 kilograms)

Frederik

[ups 747]

thanks frederic for the info.
is there any movement at brucargo now for the moment or are those containers still there.
anyone know a shipping start date?
i don't work in the weekend so no info on this side.
will see tomorrow.

[Atlantis]

I don't think they will stand there for a long time. Maybe we can expect this week some extra freighters.

[regi]

are we allowed to speak publicly about military transports on Belgian soil of a NATO member ?

[Stij]

are we allowed to speak publicly about military transports on Belgian soil of a NATO member ?

If they really would have want to keep it a secret, they would have used Chièvres wouldn't they?

Cheers,

Stij

[9vsmu]

are we allowed to speak publicly about military transports on Belgian soil of a NATO member ?

Nobody has any objection when the ports of Antwerp or Zeebrugge are used.

[Established02]

Maybe we can expect this week some extra freighters.

KE521/522 are the usual flight numbers for BRU.

MON11JAN
KE 9528 ICN 1530
KE 8536 ICN 1930

TUE12JAN10
KE 8536 ICN 1930
KE 8522 ICN 2115

[ups 747]

2 KE plaines where loaded today with the containers.
one left about 16.00 when the second came in.