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If Ryanair would be 'out' because of fuel prices, I'd recon they would be the ones who'll turn out the light in the industry and lock the door. There are A LOT of airlines that are less capable of dealing with even higher oil prices than FR.Junkers52 wrote:O'Leary reckons Ryanair will be out at $100.00.
Ryanair is not a second class airline, it's third class. Ryanair is the European cattle airline.Emirates wrote:If you pay second class prices, be prepared for second class product. Why do people expect so much? I don't think that its unfair to charge for things, when you giving away fares for 1p+tax.
I don't think Ryanair has a monopoly really, if you take Belgium for an example, Ryanair has a very hard time here. I'm sure we won't see them at Zaventem in the future, if SN have anything to do with it.
Emirates
I bit of a latecomer to this thread but I am completely stunned. I actually agree with Regi about something 8OLook dear members, we have to accept some facts.
Ryanair is like ALDI or Lidl. Cheap, unpleasant to visit, but no outdated products, no safety problems. Their staff strikes less than Carrefour or Auchan. Not really dirty. Just, unpleasant. I rather go to more upmarket shops. But I do economize as well - sometimes.
O'Learry is just a bookkeeper - see his curriculum. He would hate it if a Ryanair jet would crash. Because of the costs involved. And it is thanks to his "Scrooge" mentality that millions of people can afford it to fly all over Europe. It is thanks to the same mentality of the Aldi twin brother (the richiest men of Germany btw) that many europeans can enjoy smoked salmon.
Another victim of the propaganda, and quite offensive too by calling millions of Europeans "cows".Sebas wrote:Ryanair is not a second class airline, it's third class. Ryanair is the European cattle airline.
I never flew with it, I will never fly with it and I advise all my friends to avoid Ryanair. Someday I will be happy that I have this policy.
Based on what And maybe your friends also waste their time by listening to your virtual experiences.
My sincere apologies to Emirate, whom I misquoted - it's Sebas who is the author of the above quote.airazurxtror wrote:Sebas writes :
"Ryanair is not a second class airline, it's third class. Ryanair is the European cattle airline.
I never flew with it, I will never fly with it and I advise all my friends to avoid Ryanair."
It's amazing how Ryanair can stirr up passions !
Frankly, I have flown quite a few times with Ryanair ( I have logged some 80 hours with them), and I still fail to see what is so wrong with them. Of course, keeping in mind it is an LCC...
They have opened up the skies for a lot of people who couldn't afford to fly before, and they must be thanked for it, anyway.
Buzz you are right. I picked up on O'Leary and the $100.00 quote a few months back, fuel is now the most critical issue for this industry.If Ryanair would be 'out' because of fuel prices, I'd recon they would be the ones who'll turn out the light in the industry and lock the door. There are A LOT of airlines that are less capable of dealing with even higher oil prices than FR.
heh heh I knew that the Ryanair fanclub would be sensitive to the cattle picture.Rayman wrote: You never flew with it, you'll never do it and you dare to give advise
Etc...Etc...Etc...
Anyway, I think I made my point. Every now and then the Ryanair unsafe topic comes on this forum and everytime it ends with the O'Leary fanclub against the aviation safety guys. Where there's smoke, there's .... Eventually, we'll see who was right.
Before making a statement like that you need to do some research on carbon emissions. The most environmentally damaging form of transport is by aircraft. In addition to being heavily polluters they are also depositing emissions at higher more environmentally sensitive levels.it's better for the environment (less people using car).
BTW, your definition of two existing parties like “the MOL fanclub” and “the aviation safety guys” is out of place, simply for the fact everybody is for safety. It’s not a matter of being fan or not.Sebas wrote:1) Anyway, you have a point, in general, one shouldn't advise on something he has no experience on. Good
2) However, when it comes to safety, there is an exception. If you refuse to use something because you know it's unsafe, you do not have to try it out in order to inform others that it is unsafe.
You are not informing, you are, at this stage, just spreading alligations you heard and especially like to hear.
3) Do I have to jump of a large mountain in order to tell others that it is unsafe? No. One should still not endanger his own life in order to protect the life of others.
No, you don't need to jump anything, but if you believe a simple step it's a large mountain you're not protecting anyone, on the contrary you're limiting other's opportunities.
4) Therefore, I think my advise is justified. 8O
Hey Junkers,Junkers52 wrote:Sebas
Before making a statement like that you need to do some research on carbon emissions. The most environmentally damaging form of transport is by aircraft. In addition to being heavily polluters they are also depositing emissions at higher more environmentally sensitive levels.
Mass aviation is approaching a watershed where its heavy pollution is converging with its excessive use of energy resources. These resources are not going to last forever. One reason for the continually rising price of oil is that not enough can now be brought to market to satisfy world demand and what is brought in many cases is unsuitable heavy sulfur oil for conversion into products like jet fuel.
This situation is not going to change. In fact all signs are that it will get a lot worse as there is now quite frankly not the 'new' reserves of oil to replace the now steady depletion in places like the North Sea, Prudhoe Bay and many other established area's.
Concerns with LCC's (and all air transport) is quickly converging with enviromental issues and questions on energy depletion. Ryanair can give away millions of seats burning copious amounts of fuel in the process but with oil the price it is, the third world is already being straved. A free flight to Italy has outbid cooking kerosene in India and home lighting in Kenya. By such standards free is no longer cheap and seems reckless in its wastefulness.
