Biman: new aircraft and stopping non-profitable routes

[Atlantis]

Biman Bangladesh will get rid of it's old aircraft, maintenance and fuel costs are very high. Biman will be more efficiënt.

Next year, June, they will receive four new aircraft: two A330 and two 777. This is also necessary to fly to Europe or the USA. Those new aircraft will replace some old ones.

They will also reduce or stop routes which are not profitable. For example: the route New York - Dhaka costs a lot and is not profitable, they fly one or two times a week. They will use those routes only in codeshare. So, will this mean that they will stop flying to New York with a technical stop in BRU??

Or they have to fly with more modern equipment to New York, restrictions are very high on that airport.

Source: http://asia.news.yahoo.com

[sab319]

goodbye biman

[realplaneshaveprops]

Would be sad if Biman left BRU.
Saw a Biman triholer in front of the Lufthansa hangar on monday morning (around o'clock), some later, the aircraft left for the gates.

Greetz

Koen

[earthman]

I suspect Biman planes have much more than just three holes...

[regi]

Strange to read that the route to NY is not profitable. The planes are always full. Even business class. Maybe they transport some cargo as well.
About the new planes, I have sent also a lead about this continuous saga some months ago. The reality is that this has been anounced already for 5 years and untill now they still fly the left over DC-10's.
The technical stop in Brussels is maybe not so expensive. I assume that Biman cannot behave in the same way at Schiphol or Frankfurt.
Somewhere I fear that the replacement of the DC-10's will not improve the Biman product. I think that the major cause of the problems is the way it is managed. On the other hand I do have some respect for the Biman staff. They keep on flying.

[regi]

The only reason that Biman has not yet other airplanes is because Biman cannot find enough fabric of the 1970's colourful flowers design to cover the seats.

[waldova]

Strange to read that the route to NY is not profitable. The planes are always full. Even business class. Maybe they transport some cargo as well.

Maybe it is too expensive to keep personal at BRU and JFK for only two flights a week. Maybe the rout could become profitable if they would fly it with a higher frequency. Ofcourse for this they need new planes and ofcourse the passengers. Maybe the traffic is not high enough for more flights from Dhaka to JFK.

[sn-remember]

Maybe it is too expensive to keep personal at BRU and JFK for only two flights a week. Maybe the rout could become profitable if they would fly it with a higher frequency. Ofcourse for this they need new planes and ofcourse the passengers. Maybe the traffic is not high enough for more flights from Dhaka to JFK.

Quite right your suggestion for improved frequencies.
To have the planes filled in however they need a 5th freedom right on the route BRU-JFK, and I am not sure the US authorities would grant that or would they? (they are willing to grant it to 1W on their much awaited flight to NWK so why not?)
And they need of course to upgrade the product ito a/c quality, punctuality, confort (shortening the stopover in BRU a.o.)

[cityflyer]

Are 777's and A330's capable of flying Dhaka - New York directly, without a technical stop in Europe ?

[Bruspotter]

Hello

I think it's only possible with a B777ER/LR , and Maybe with a A330-200 , but certainly not with the A330-300 , not even with ETOPS. Because it's already quickly a rough 13000/14000km straight away I think. (can't measure it , a map isn't correct , and I don't have globe anymore...broke down).

So it IS really far.

Does anyone knows the correct distance?

Best regards: Yannick

[sab319]

JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) BRU (50°54'05"N 04°29'04"E) 3667 mi 5901 km

BRU (50°54'05"N 04°29'04"E) DAC (23°50'36"N 90°23'52"E) 4790 mi 7709 km

DAC (23°50'36"N 90°23'52"E) JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) 7880 mi 12681 km

Range:
A330-200 6750nm/12500km
A330-300 5650nm/10500km
A340-300 7400nm/13700km

B777-200 5210nm/9649km
B777-200ER 7730nm/14316km

[cityflyer]

Thanks Sab319. Since they ordered A330 and 777, I guess they can only make it with the 777-200ER. If that is what Biman ordered, it will be bye bye BRU. Pitty..... !

[vc-10]

It'l be a shame to see more DC-10s go.

[Captain]

I was in JFK on Saturday and saw Biman's DC-10. I must admin it looked a bit strange next to other international aircrafts such as Royal Air Maroc's 767.

It will be a shame to see them go from BRU but I think the choice to move to a more fuel economical aircraft makes perfect sense in this unpredictable future.

Captain

[Atlantis]

How are the loads on the route Delhi - Brussels - New York? More specific, are there people who's destination's is BRU? When I was working, years ago, at the airport the aircraft was everytime full, but I don't know how many people make a stopover.

At this time, Delhi is the only long haul destination in the region from BRU.

I that opinion I think they will still need a technical stop at Bru for their trip to the USA. I don't think that an A330 could do that in one way.

[dc1030]

i am not too sure ,that biman will be getting new generation aircrafts soon, because it still has a lot of obsticles to overcome,primarily ,govermental. Also it needs to restrature its management team ,and bring in people that know how to manage.

[LX-LGX]

Today's flight is delayed with 22 hours :

departures 06/12, New York : BG011 D1C

10h50 scheduled

07h35 delayed

[LX-LGX]

Seems the plane is in technical in Dhaka or Dubai

arrivals 06/12 Dhaka via Dubai BG011, D1C

09:15 scheduled (Tuesday)

06:15 delayed (Wednesday)

[regi]

A friend took the Biman flight to Bangkok in business class. It took him 3 days to get to BKK.
The delay of today is just the start of the saga of these passengers. I wonder if they get a hotel in Brussels.
Somebody knows?

[globetrotter]

They also need to get a new livery, something not very corporate looking but more along the lines of China Airlines, showing something like a national flower or reflecting their culture.