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Take a look at the salary of a brave person who has worked 10+ years radar. In order to guarantee confidentiality, the monthly salaries have been rounded up to the nearest ten and the months are not in the order of the calendar. All amounts are after tax / net Month 1: 5410€ Month 2: 5830€ Month 3: ...

The roster on Saturday evening is planned "short" as there is no traffic for such a night but there has to be more than one person sick to have such consequences. Moreover there are at least 10 atcos who are not working the weekend and can be recalled so that means that all of them said &q...

SR20 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2019, 15:19
ACV asked for a conciliator, skeyes managment was very reluctant if we believe ACV's words !
Anyway, I vote for mvg as conciliator

It is not really about such technical details. It looks more like what the English call a "willy-waving contest". It shows, with one example, the "(high) level" of the discussions and what some people are complaining about: 12 hours of work worth one week by going to work 3 time...

It is not really about such technical details. It looks more like what the English call a "willy-waving contest". It shows, with one example, the "(high) level" of the discussions and what some people are complaining about: 12 hours of work worth one week by going to work 3 time...

In the meantime, our country is in a this situation because people can't agree on what working 2 nights and one day shift means... It's paid as 5 days, it's worth 35 hours (= a full week of work for going 3 times to work) and it means working around 12 hours on position (big maximum 4 hours per shif...

Without talking about who is right and who is wrong (management or Atcos), with the current industrial actions, the only ones who are screwed up are the passengers and the airlines (and the pilots of course). The image of Skeyes, the Atcos and ATC in general has become horrendous. Management won’t m...

The management isn’t doing great, that’s for sure. But Atco’s either... They complain that they are rostered 12 days in a row followed by one day off. Ask anyone outside this job what 12 days in a row means: that is 12 days when you take you car, go to work and come back home, 12 times. That is not ...

The CEO is right: only a small group of "leaders" create the mess. The others do not dare to stand up and say no. It has been like that for years! Nevertheless I fear that bringing one person to court is going to (re)create a larger group of protest and lead to even more tensions and actio...

By the way, for those who think that everything runs smoothly in a private ANSP ! Capture+_2019-03-23-16-05-06.png DFS is private but owned 100% by the State. Reminds me of a company in our country :) Of course privatizing won’t solve everything but will at least provide a better business continuit...

There used to be no stand-by shifts at all during years because management and controllers couldn't agree on how to put a system in place and what the conditions would be. Now they have stand-by(s) for some shifts, not for others. So yes, if nobody is willing to come, then Atco's who have called si...

There used to be no stand-by shifts at all during years because management and controllers couldn't agree on how to put a system in place and what the conditions would be. Now they have stand-by(s) for some shifts, not for others. So yes, if nobody is willing to come, then Atco's who have called sic...

2 calling sick out of 5 for the whole ACC? Or per side (east / west?

Controllers are not obliged to accept a recall if they don’t feel like. So if someone calls sick and nobody (who is at home) picks up the phone, that’s it...

737MAX wrote: ↑23 Mar 2019, 07:51

mvg wrote: ↑23 Mar 2019, 02:15 Let’s hope that those who called sick will get better soon.

Just to have an idea, how many call have to call sick to create that lack of staff?

Very interesting question! But will we ever get an answer?

Let’s hope that those who called sick will get better soon. Another strike without losing money but annoying many companies,and businesses who are gonna think twice in the future before choosing Belgium to invest. Thank you for that and for all the jobs that are gonna be created in the future in oth...

@737MAX and DIBO Hi guys, we should try to avoid fighting here: the “you know nothing” usual answer won’t make the discussion move forward. You are both right in fact: anyone can write on this forum things he/she invents. And we, as professionals, will make our opinions with what we find true, with ...

Advice to the management: publish all the hours that have been stolen from the company with early leaves at the end of each shift per controller since he/she started to work for the company.
That’s gonna be hilarious

Sad indeed... Controllers have been fighting with each new management (and there has been quite a few since the creation of Belgocontrol). Some have kept the mentalities (and the privileges) of the old RLW/RVA which was run by the State. Skeyes (ex-Belgocontrol) is probably the last such company tha...

Not that many... less than 10 over the last 5 years. Some even came back... And many who left had other reasons than the working conditions (moving to be closer to their wife/husband for example) And why did only a few French militaries and a few Latvians made it the other way around? Because the co...

This Belgocontrol is a national disgrace! Time to put an end to that farce. What do you suggest, then? A new management? Fire them all? Put the military instead? :roll: Be serious for a second. And read the previous long posts in this topic. I suggest that those who are not happy go to apply elsewh...