By doing the simple maths, the long haul fleet would start it's renewal approx 2030.
At that time enough A350 or B789 shall bei available in the secondary market or even within the group.
New A330 Neos may not ve an option.
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- 10 Mar 2024, 23:25
- Forum: Latest aviation news
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- 10 Mar 2024, 18:26
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
It's all depending on the Booeing /Airbus carousel. From the remaining 9 available A333 at LH, there may be 3 pools which would be in the right spot to access them: - 3xA332 at Discover are due to replacement in 2026, however as their leases were extended and the market rates for this model are down...
- 10 Mar 2024, 09:40
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Additional A330, unless leased from the market are depending on the deliveries of B789 and A350 fam. The planned rotation within the group is pretty clear: - additional A359 with First would create room to bring all A346 to FRA before retirement - the large tranche of new 789 to be delivered would f...
- 08 Mar 2024, 08:26
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2024
Let's be reasonable , both sides! The only raison d'etre for CRL is provincial pride of the french speaking part of the country. There is neither a regional need nor a capacity contraint at the main airport. It is fair enough to say that for Rynair is a place of strong focus, as it was the first bas...
- 07 Mar 2024, 11:52
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When will OO-SBD & OO-SBE be delivered? And when will there be more news about definitive plans for new aircrafts for Brussels Airlines like OO-SBF, OO-SBG, etc New airplanes would come when the free slots to be delivered in the coming years would be available. This year's slots are all planned...
- 07 Mar 2024, 09:52
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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The "growth" continues : SN appears to either be removing Edinburgh from October, or converting to summer seasonal. Source : @GeorgeNTravels Growth means more pax, regardless where. See the facts, just published this morning - SN is not at the point where profitability is sustainable - 3,...
- 01 Mar 2024, 17:55
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2024
If a company can fly destination A and earn 5 EUR why should it fly destination B and earn only 4? Business decision are not emotional. If for you, on a personal level, there is a demand it is fine, but everything that appears relevant to us as individuals reflects the real demand. I would also pref...
- 01 Mar 2024, 12:45
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The main reason of the CityJet wetleases going feom SN to LH is the grounding of many A320 neo with PW engines. Originally it was indeed the plan to also have cityet wetleases for SN in S24 ( they make profits ), but it was reshuffled to LH because they will have over 20 a320 grounded due to the en...
- 29 Feb 2024, 10:50
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Guys, The first attempt to take things seriously starts by reading the whole PR News. In a second phase one should have a meaningfull judgement. Hungary is taking over in Summer the EU presidency. The consequence would be temporarly additional travel demand of public servants. In a rather authocrati...
- 28 Feb 2024, 16:28
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Bullshit at its best. All French cities are connected to the major hubs - some of them just seasonal, as real demand from French provinces is not as big as you may assume. Furthermore LH has a JV with United.. so they share profits and cost, even pax are starting in AMS. Sabena went bankrupt because...
- 27 Feb 2024, 23:15
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
The oldest A330 in the fleet are ex LH from 2005. As the current 343 are up to 27 years, the oldest 767 at Austrian were flying until their 30th and the 772 still planning to fly few more years it is likely to see the current and future 333 of SN due for replacement in a wave approx 2030-35. No need...
- 27 Feb 2024, 16:42
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2024
Probably within this year Dorothea will also be replaced by yet another CEO. He or She will also make nice interviews (more growth, more destinations, more frequencies etc.. like Dorothea said in Luchtvaartnieuws interview). Opposite will happen and foreign companies will continue to take more mark...
- 27 Feb 2024, 13:45
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Well, this is the company has.
There was a good reason in the idea of integrating it into Eurowings.
Now you keep the brand and the emotion, but execute the product.
Brussels is a Eurowings but some little end of the tail attractive Africa long haul.
There was a good reason in the idea of integrating it into Eurowings.
Now you keep the brand and the emotion, but execute the product.
Brussels is a Eurowings but some little end of the tail attractive Africa long haul.
- 27 Feb 2024, 13:42
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And we talk about Cityjet CRJ1000 jets. Not A320. The strategy is all A320. CRJ May have been a feeling consideration and didn't worked out. Or, they can earn in wetlease more being located in MUC - the 380 are back and need to be filled. From a group prospective it may be the better economical dec...
- 27 Feb 2024, 08:08
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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And we talk about Cityjet CRJ1000 jets. Not A320. The strategy is all A320. CRJ May have been a feeling consideration and didn't worked out. Or, they can earn in wetlease more being located in MUC - the 380 are back and need to be filled. From a group prospective it may be the better economical dec...
- 27 Feb 2024, 07:47
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Simply.
Focus is everything that fits into a A320 size.
P2P Model.
Focus is everything that fits into a A320 size.
P2P Model.
- 26 Feb 2024, 21:44
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2024
LH is flying some regional routes to MUC, where there is no real LCC competition. Brussels is a high LCC spot and SN is competing against Ryanair and Wizz. So would it make sense to wet lease A320 to fill it? What would be the yield expectations? The local market in Belgium is like that - if you cla...
- 26 Feb 2024, 20:31
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
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I understand but is it not high time to change the very pessimistic Belgian mindset? We can see here a lot of complaining, but when the CEO finally is willing to fight for new planes bcs the company is doing better, it's again not good. Decide what you want. Still flying second hand or having final...
- 26 Jan 2024, 15:20
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- Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2024
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About the wi-fi discussion it is important especially on long haul knowing that they are also day flights I find that it's missing very hard and it is really not a luxury anymore! From Luanda it's only Brussel Airlines and RAM flying without WiFi. The reasonable question is : what is the economical...
- 25 Jan 2024, 17:46
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2024
You didn't got the irony?fcw wrote: ↑25 Jan 2024, 17:06Not at all, Qualiflyer disappeared when Swissair and Sabena went bankrupt 22 years ago!oldblueeyes wrote: ↑25 Jan 2024, 16:02
Star was not the only alliance.
Qualiflyer was another one. So good that the high flyers of it ended up as LH subsidiaries.
The grass is not greener somewhere else.