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JOVAN2
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How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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It becomes more and more urgent to connect BRU better with TGV and other train connections.

In a few years time EU and other bureaucratic instances will push to stop flights below 500km.

Everybody knows that a huge part of PAX for SN's African destinations come from France.
Especially the Paris area has hundreds of thousands of African customers for SN and BRU.

Now there are two flights CDG-BRU to bring and take back.

We know that the Eurostar stops only in Brussels-Midi but that only few PAX make it further by local train to BRU Airport.
Changing trains with lots and lots of baggage is troublesome, as we all know.
Eurostar should be pushed (obliged) to stop at least in BRU Airport Station. Now the CEO of Eurostar does not want this, because she serves the French interests.

Brussels has a unique North-South train connection, and also the Diabolo is a vital and time winning infrastructure that you find nowhere in Europe.

Let us hope that the new Belgium Government puts things straight with Eurostar (and DB, NMBS and NS).
CEO of BRU needs Belgian Government support to open BRU again to thr European High speed railways.

Knowing the poor performance of Eurostar, the poor infrastructural quality in Dutch High Speed lines, it is time to put intereet of BRU and SN first/

It is simply also a matter of life or death for BRU and SN.
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Lux_avi wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 18:53 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Luckily the new (future,} Arizona government is better informed than you.
They will work on re-connecting BRU to.the European HST network.
And the project to connect CRL to the rail network is on the table again.
Short flight will soon be history. For BRU and SN this is a vital project.

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JOVAN2 wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 21:48
Lux_avi wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 18:53 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Luckily the new (future,} Arizona government is better informed than you.
They will work on re-connecting BRU to.the European HST network.
And the project to connect CRL to the rail network is on the table again.
Short flight will soon be history. For BRU and SN this is a vital project.
...and "soon" means ???

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There was a problem with the BBCode, please double check when writing a message in the forums 😇

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Re: How will BRU and SN survive when Short haul flights will disappear ?

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JOVAN2 wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 16:38 It becomes more and more urgent to connect BRU better with TGV and other train connections.

In a few years time EU and other bureaucratic instances will push to stop flights below 500km.

Everybody knows that a huge part of PAX for SN's African destinations come from France.
Especially the Paris area has hundreds of thousands of African customers for SN and BRU.

Now there are two flights CDG-BRU to bring and take back.

We know that the Eurostar stops only in Brussels-Midi but that only few PAX make it further by local train to BRU Airport.
Changing trains with lots and lots of baggage is troublesome, as we all know.
Eurostar should be pushed (obliged) to stop at least in BRU Airport Station. Now the CEO of Eurostar does not want this, because she serves the French interests.

Brussels has a unique North-South train connection, and also the Diabolo is a vital and time winning infrastructure that you find nowhere in Europe.

Let us hope that the new Belgium Government puts things straight with Eurostar (and DB, NMBS and NS).
CEO of BRU needs Belgian Government support to open BRU again to thr European High speed railways.

Knowing the poor performance of Eurostar, the poor infrastructural quality in Dutch High Speed lines, it is time to put intereet of BRU and SN first/

It is simply also a matter of life or death for BRU and SN.
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Blue Monday ?
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As short-haul flights are replaced by rail services (especially for distances under 3-4 hours), BRU could become a hub for seamless travel, integrating air and rail connections to provide more options for passengers.
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nordikcam wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 22:26
JOVAN2 wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 21:48
Lux_avi wrote: 20 Jan 2025, 18:53 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Luckily the new (future,} Arizona government is better informed than you.
They will work on re-connecting BRU to.the European HST network.
And the project to connect CRL to the rail network is on the table again.
Short flight will soon be history. For BRU and SN this is a vital project.
...and "soon" means ???
At least it is on the table of people who make or can make decisions. We should all hope they succeed soon in collaborating.
Our country is going down quickly...

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JOVAN2 wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 13:54 Our country is going down quickly...
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The new government agreement foresees connecting CRL to railway network.
Good decision

And even better, BRU will have to be connected again with the high speed train network.
The infrastructure is there already.
SNCB NMBS and Eurostar will have to adapt things.

Hopefully government and EU will also push to abolish monopoly of Eurostar on almost all lucrative routes.

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JOVAN2 wrote: 04 Feb 2025, 12:03 The new government agreement foresees connecting CRL to railway network.
Good decision

And even better, BRU will have to be connected again with the high speed train network.
The infrastructure is there already.
SNCB NMBS and Eurostar will have to adapt things.

Hopefully government and EU will also push to abolish monopoly of Eurostar on almost all lucrative routes.
In the new actualization of the government agreement, the connection of CRL to the railway network is removed. It's too expensive

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