Air Belgium in 2023

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Madagascar Airlines wet-leased one A330-200, MSN 1486 reg. OE-LAC, from Air Belgium, replacing a similar aircraft on lease from Aircraft Engine Lease Finance (US).
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Former Air Belgium A340-300 OO-ADB is destined to become Surinam Airways' newest acquisition. Currently in Amman.

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Air Belgium in recent weeks filed planned operation during summer 2023 season, effective 26MAR23. Planned operation as follows:

Brussels – Johannesburg – Cape Town 2 weekly
Brussels – Mauritius reduced from 2 to 1 weekly during selected period in 2Q23: 18APR23 – 28APR23, 16MAY23 – 02JUN23

Source: Aeroroutes
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Air Belgium also flying for Condor to Punta Cana, Seattle, Toronto.

3 flights a week to Seattle, 2 to Toronto.

Good training to open own US routes ??

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Saw a headline on CH-Aviation that AB was stopping flights out of CRL but article only available to members...
Are they moving the FDF/PTP ops to BRU?
Kind of would make sense to operate all flights out of 1 airport...

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JustPlanes wrote: 12 Mar 2023, 21:38 Saw a headline on CH-Aviation that AB was stopping flights out of CRL but article only available to members...
Are they moving the FDF/PTP ops to BRU?
Kind of would make sense to operate all flights out of 1 airport...
Antilles are actually completely scrapped, which means there are no destinations left at CRL. Overall, the network now only consists of MRU, CPT and JNB from BRU.

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Miqvell wrote: 12 Mar 2023, 21:49
JustPlanes wrote: 12 Mar 2023, 21:38 Saw a headline on CH-Aviation that AB was stopping flights out of CRL but article only available to members...
Are they moving the FDF/PTP ops to BRU?
Kind of would make sense to operate all flights out of 1 airport...
Antilles are actually completely scrapped, which means there are no destinations left at CRL. Overall, the network now only consists of MRU, CPT and JNB from BRU.

Thank you for the response!

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During the state visit to South Africa, Air Belgium announced new routes this fall to US and 'an' Asian country. Not clear whether this will be from CRL or BRU.
Nicky Terzakis also said new money will be needed to get more planes and expand the network. At the moment, most of the revenue is because of cargo.

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He also said that the airline needs again money for their development plans.

Not sure yet however concerning the Antilles, if they'll come back from Winter 23-24.
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In Cape Town rumor has it Air Belgium will fly non-stop to Cape Town as from the winter schedule...

Not reflected in the booking engine yet...

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As from tomorrow, 5th April, Air Belgium/Hongyuan will operate a weekly cargo flight from LGG to Chengdu with their A330F

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brabel wrote: 25 Mar 2023, 14:15 During the state visit to South Africa, Air Belgium announced new routes this fall to US and 'an' Asian country. Not clear whether this will be from CRL or BRU.
Nicky Terzakis also said new money will be needed to get more planes and expand the network. At the moment, most of the revenue is because of cargo.
I guess AB will now focus on BRU for pax service. Much easier and logical.

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I know it's not that simple (KF is not a network Airline) but could't KF/SN/LH unify their (African) network in BRU ? Just as a win-win situation ?
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Conti764 wrote: 05 Apr 2023, 09:53
brabel wrote: 25 Mar 2023, 14:15 During the state visit to South Africa, Air Belgium announced new routes this fall to US and 'an' Asian country. Not clear whether this will be from CRL or BRU.
Nicky Terzakis also said new money will be needed to get more planes and expand the network. At the moment, most of the revenue is because of cargo.
I guess AB will now focus on BRU for pax service. Much easier and logical.
I hope, on the contrary, that AB will develop more and more flights from CLR.
That was the initial deal with the Walloon region.
Avoiding BRU is a good thing as a passenger.

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as a passenger if possible
1st avoid CRL
2nd avoid BRU

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Stij wrote: 04 Apr 2023, 14:41 In Cape Town rumor has it Air Belgium will fly non-stop to Cape Town as from the winter schedule...

Not reflected in the booking engine yet...
The agreement with AIRLINK for many local connections in RSA and neighbouring countries is certainly a success.
So, more weekly flights to JNB and CPT are a possibility; and separating the flights-making both destinations non-stop- would be the way to go.

Similar agreements with local airlines will be necessary if they fly to USA and Thailand (BKK).;
A possible destination would be DENVER: a huge airport now with connections to all important airports on West Coast + in MidWest.
Agreement with FRONTIER Airlines would offer top opportunities.

I hope AB comes with some good news soon.

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travellover wrote: 06 Apr 2023, 21:07 I know it's not that simple (KF is not a network Airline) but could't KF/SN/LH unify their (African) network in BRU ? Just as a win-win situation ?
Besides, any such arrangement would benefit KF much more as SN already has wide use of a similar network thru the LH group and the Star Alliance. LH would never accept that.

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koninckske wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 10:00 as a passenger if possible
1st avoid CRL
2nd avoid BRU
In a nutshell : avoid Belgium. :lol:

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Ozzie1969 wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 13:27
koninckske wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 10:00 as a passenger if possible
1st avoid CRL
2nd avoid BRU
In a nutshell : avoid Belgium. :lol:
In a nutshell... fly from ANR? :lol:
Or maybe OST... But in all honesty: BRU isn't that bad: for Belgian travellers it's situated centrally, and the time lost travelling to another airport doesn't outweigh the cons of BRU.

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PttU wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 22:41
Ozzie1969 wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 13:27
koninckske wrote: 07 Apr 2023, 10:00 as a passenger if possible
1st avoid CRL
2nd avoid BRU
In a nutshell : avoid Belgium. :lol:
In a nutshell... fly from ANR? :lol:
Or maybe OST... But in all honesty: BRU isn't that bad: for Belgian travellers it's situated centrally, and the time lost travelling to another airport doesn't outweigh the cons of BRU.
I don't think BRU is the worst ever. It's okay, I guess. Who cares, you're there because you're going on holiday, right ? May as well be in a cheerful mood, then.

CRL on the other hand ... What a disaster ! Still, if the price is right, I'd fly from CRL in a heartbeat.

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