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Virgin Atlantic just named their latest Airbus A330neo "Queen of the Skies", raising eyebrows among 747 lovers. Virgin Atlantic justifies the name by saying it is to honour the late Queen Elizabeth II, and to show it, they registered the plane as G-VEII (the G for British planes, the V for Virgin, and of course a self-explanatory EII)

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I like their way of naming plane. Sometimes a bit hard to find the connection If english isn't your native languige, but still.

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Air Nostrum has resumed the process for its merger with CityJet and has once again sent the documentation to the European authorities to authorise the operation, which had been put on hold after the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.
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Can really understand that such a nonsense article makes it into the headlines of an aviation website...Record number of private jets in Europe and Belgium, used even for very short distances like Kortrijk-Lille

The shortest connections are Kortrijk-Lille: 27.8 km (239 flights) and Liège-Maastricht: 37 km (62 flights). There were 204 flights between Brussels and Antwerp (40 km).
in my (aviation) dictionary a connection is flight for transporting pax/freight from airport X to Y. I'm very inclined to believe that the above mentioned flights were all positioning flights for logistical, technical or training purposes. And not for any pax movements...

1er du classement : Paris -> Paris 🚗 12 min en voiture
This Tweet included in the article is even greater nonsense. The purpose of the flight was to move the aircraft from A to B, this could never haven been done "en voiture" :roll:

In 2022, 10,618 private jet flights left Belgium, i.e. 52% more than in 2021.
These flights generated 41,000 tonnes of CO2 emissions, which is as much as the average annual emissions of 27,310 cars.
And finally to put things into perspective, 41000 tonnes of CO2 is as much as the CO2 generated in 50 production-hours of natural gas fired electricity plants needed to compensate the closed nuclear plants Doel 3 & Tihange 2

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DIBO wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 20:44 Can really understand that such a nonsense article makes it into the headlines of an aviation website...Record number of private jets in Europe and Belgium, used even for very short distances like Kortrijk-Lille
This article was posted only to show the nonsense in some Greenpeace publications. Smart readers, like yourself, have understood that immediately and corrected Greenpeace's assertions.
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sn26567 wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 23:41
DIBO wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 20:44 Can really understand that such a nonsense article makes it into the headlines of an aviation website...Record number of private jets in Europe and Belgium, used even for very short distances like Kortrijk-Lille
This article was posted only to show the nonsense in some Greenpeace publications. Smart readers, like yourself, have understood that immediately and corrected Greenpeace's assertions.
Can you let us know, dear sn26567, which forum rule fcw and myself broke to get our posts deleted?

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Lux_avi wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 10:01
sn26567 wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 23:41
DIBO wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 20:44 Can really understand that such a nonsense article makes it into the headlines of an aviation website...Record number of private jets in Europe and Belgium, used even for very short distances like Kortrijk-Lille
This article was posted only to show the nonsense in some Greenpeace publications. Smart readers, like yourself, have understood that immediately and corrected Greenpeace's assertions.
Can you let us know, dear sn26567, which forum rule fcw and myself broke to get our posts deleted?
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sn26567 wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 11:13
Lux_avi wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 10:01
sn26567 wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 23:41
This article was posted only to show the nonsense in some Greenpeace publications. Smart readers, like yourself, have understood that immediately and corrected Greenpeace's assertions.
Can you let us know, dear sn26567, which forum rule fcw and myself broke to get our posts deleted?
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Air India has applied new livery to first aircraft VT-ALL a 777-300ER spotted at San Francisco https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3bq5YHbUAA ... name=large

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globetrotter wrote: 02 Sep 2023, 12:44 Air India has applied new livery to first aircraft VT-ALL a 777-300ER spotted at San Francisco https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3bq5YHbUAA ... name=large
"Aeroconcepts" is an account that edits liveries so this photo is actually fake, the livery will actually be deployed on the first A350 at the end of this year

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Thanks did not know, he posted it as real info, will report it.

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Just got the news from LBV.
Gabon airspace is open again and air traffic allowed back to FOOL.
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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 02 Sep 2023, 15:42 Just got the news from LBV.
Gabon airspace is open again and air traffic allowed back to FOOL.

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But the Gabon air space was never closed or am I wrong?
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Poor & sensational "journalism" at its best. Bringing nothing interesting but "panic" to potential travelers who could worry for their flight for absolutely no reason.

Like the 3 previous ones in the area, this eruption (if it happens) is not expected to produce ash.
Accuweather reports that too, but looks like only a part of the article was interesting to report here.

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Lux_avi wrote: 21 Nov 2023, 08:42
Poor & sensational "journalism" at its best. Bringing nothing interesting but "panic" to potential travelers who could worry for their flight for absolutely no reason.

Like the 3 previous ones in the area, this eruption (if it happens) is not expected to produce ash.
Accuweather reports that too, but looks like only a part of the article was interesting to report here.
Poor and unsensational "remark" at its best.

Kristín Jónsdóttir, head of department at the Icelandic Meteorological Office, suggests that people will need to remain in suspense for the next few days to witness how events unfold. The stakes are high, as authorities fear they might have as little as 30 minutes' notice before a volcanic eruption takes place.

The latest signs of an impending eruption include the detection of magmatic gas in a borehole in Svartsengi, signalling a possible eruption of the Fagradalsfjall volcano in the coming days. The town of Grindavik faces the most significant risk in this scenario, and nearly 4,000 residents were evacuated over the weekend in anticipation of potential danger.

This situation inevitably raises concerns about air travel, given Iceland's crucial position between Europe and North America. In response, Iceland's aviation alert has been elevated to orange, indicating an increased risk of a volcanic eruption.

(from Vilma Vaitiekunaite via LinkedIn)
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sn26567 wrote: 21 Nov 2023, 17:39 This situation inevitably raises concerns about air travel, given Iceland's crucial position between Europe and North America. In response, Iceland's aviation alert has been elevated to orange, indicating an increased risk of a volcanic eruption.
Related NOTAM:

A0708/23 NOTAMN Q) BIRD/QWWXX/V /NBO/W /000/025/6558N01748W007

A) BIRD B) 2311121356 C) 2311292359

E) DUE TO LIKELY VOLCANIC ERUPTION NEAR GRINDAVIK A RESTRICTED AREA, BIR5 IS DEFINED WITHIN 635621N0222218W 635440N0221323W 634641N0222232W 634902N0223533W.

VFR AND DRONE FLIGHT IS PROHIBITED WITHIN THE AREA. AIRCRAFT OPERATING ON BEHALF OR WITH PERMISSION FROM THE NATIONAL POLICE COMMISSIONER, THE ICELANDIC COAST GUARD OR THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE EXEMPT FROM THE RESTRICTION.

F) SFC G) 2500FT AMSL
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sn26567 wrote: 21 Nov 2023, 23:20
sn26567 wrote: 21 Nov 2023, 17:39 This situation inevitably raises concerns about air travel, given Iceland's crucial position between Europe and North America. In response, Iceland's aviation alert has been elevated to orange, indicating an increased risk of a volcanic eruption.
Related NOTAM:

F) SFC G) 2500FT AMSL

Air travel between Europe and North America, below 2500ft? Not sure I would call that crucial…

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sn26567 wrote: 21 Nov 2023, 17:39
Poor and unsensational "remark" at its best.

Kristín Jónsdóttir, head of department at the Icelandic Meteorological Office, suggests that people will need to remain in suspense for the next few days to witness how events unfold. The stakes are high, as authorities fear they might have as little as 30 minutes' notice before a volcanic eruption takes place.

The latest signs of an impending eruption include the detection of magmatic gas in a borehole in Svartsengi, signalling a possible eruption of the Fagradalsfjall volcano in the coming days. The town of Grindavik faces the most significant risk in this scenario, and nearly 4,000 residents were evacuated over the weekend in anticipation of potential danger.

This situation inevitably raises concerns about air travel, given Iceland's crucial position between Europe and North America. In response, Iceland's aviation alert has been elevated to orange, indicating an increased risk of a volcanic eruption.

(from Vilma Vaitiekunaite via LinkedIn)
Since the 2010 eruption that had a major impact on air travel, every time something is cooking in Iceland, media take the opportunity to create sensational articles like yours, showing 0 knowledge of the situation but yet willing to incorrectly inform people. There are several eruptions taking place in the world now, with ash production, and therefore affecting air travel too. How come we never see anything about that in the media, or on av24? Simple because people do not care as it doesn't remind them the chaos the Eyjafjallajökull eruption caused in 2010.

So. Either you could be willing to be open to more accurate information, or stick to your clueless ideas and continue driving full speed into a concrete wall like you just did.

Thanks to wonderful scientific equipment and information available to the public (mostly provided by the Icelandic Met Office), information regarding this potential eruption is extremely easy to find on official websites. Or on serious sources on social media pages (run by geologists).

If you had chosen the option to get yourself informed a bit better, you would have found out that there has indeed been a (little) fear of having an explosive eruption due to the fact that the current magma flow is partially extending into the ocean close to Grindavik. Even if that underwater eruption had happened, ash would have been produced at a much, much lower levels than what it has been with the 2010 eruption of the eyjafjallajökull. A worse case scenario is always considered, but it has always been extremely unlikely. Scientists quickly considered this underwater eruption to be unlikely as most of the earthquake activity is taking place near Hagafell and Stora, along the magmatic dyke.

The 3 previous eruptions on the peninsula (kudos to you for providing a photo of the first eruption in the zone, where you clearly see there is no ash at all by the way) have been no danger. Those were called 'tourist' eruptions. The difference between the current potential eruption is different in the way that the magma corridor is estimated to be 15km long, running under Grindavik and near a very important power plant and the famous blue lagoon. The initial fear was that an eruption could have happened under these important infrastructures, but that was before the huge earthquake swarm that opened up a fissure in Grindavik 10 days ago. Now, the most likely scenario is an eruption alone the dyke, near the zones where the earthquake activity is concentrated. At the time of writing, it is even considered that the eruption could not happen as most of the activity is significantly reduced (however, it remains uncertain as high winds affect the earthquake data since yesterday).

This is the VONA message published on the Icelandic Met Office website regarding the aviation color code;
Reykjanes

Time: 15. Nov 2023, 12:02 GMT

Color code: Orange

Volcano id: 371020

Activity summary:
The magmatic dike which formed on Friday 10 November has an estimated volume of 120 million cubic meters which is three times larger than the largest intrusion in Fagradalsfjall. The top depth of the dike is assessed to be on average at about 800 m. In the last two days, a DOAS instrument, scanning over the central part of the dike, clearly detected measurable amount of SO2 in the atmosphere. This might indicate that magma might have reached shallower regions in some segments along the dike. At this stage, the likelihood for an eruption is considered high with the most likely scenario to be an effusive eruption on land. The aviation color code remains at orange for the increased likelihood of an eruption.

Cloud height:
No eruption ongoing."

Other cloud information:
No eruption ongoing.

Remarks:
In the unlikely case of an explosive eruption occurring offshore it is assessed the worst case scenario to be a plume up to 15 km a.s.l. More information on background activity, eruptive scenarios and volcanic hazards is available at icelandicvolcanoes.is/?volcano=REY
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Sources;

1. Icelandic Met Office
https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/a-se ... last-night

2. RUV news in English runs a live blog
https://www.ruv.is/english/2023-11-20-g ... ula-397706

To sum up; yes ash production is a threat to aviation but it's like saying water can make you wet.
Of course that threat is always reminded in such events, but reality IS that it is an extremely unlikely scenario in this particular event.
Yet, geology/volcanism are never a certitude, risk assessment is based on available & historical data. Surprises are never to be completely ruled out, but the risk of this particular eruption to cause a threat to aviation is close to 0.

Regarding the NOTAM you posted, authorities applied that ban to avoid people going to the danger area, or film the damage the fissure has caused in Grindavik.

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Thanks, Lux_avi, for a rather constructive post, if we except the criticism against a member of the news team.

More generally, I appreciate your engagement in this discussion. While it's absolutely fine to have differing opinions, it's crucial to keep the conversation centred on the facts and ideas rather than resorting to personal criticisms.

Let's focus on the content itself rather than making it about individuals involved. Constructive feedback and differing viewpoints are valuable for our community to thrive. I'm open to discussing the points you've raised as long as we can maintain a respectful and constructive dialogue. Thanks for understanding!
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