17feb2020: Dutch ATC wants to censor this Youtube-clip made by public newsstation. Runway incident cover-up...

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17feb2020: Dutch ATC wants to censor this Youtube-clip made by public newsstation. Runway incident cover-up...

Post by stratofreighter » 16 Feb 2020, 19:52

...only in Dutch, for now:
https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/262102/l ... -landingen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV-lR4pdRuA

For those interested:
Lucht Verkeers Leiding Nederland, the Dutch counterpart of BelgoControl/Skeyes,
wants the Youtube-clip above to be removed before Monday morning 17feb2020.

Talk about a "Streisand Effect". :roll:

Not the first time LVNL/Dutch ATC tries to censor Dutch media, whether left -or right-orientated-politically... :roll:

https://twitter.com/dsajet/status/1229087605205217280
Intussen is de brief van LVNL binnen:
voor 23.59 uur vanavond moet het audiofragment van onze site en ons YouTube-kanaal zijn verwijderd,
daarna moeten we rekening houden met juridische stappen.
LVNL weet zich overigens geen raad met de site die al hun ATC openbaar archiveert.

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Re: 17feb2020: Dutch ATC wants to censor this Youtube-clip made by public newsstation. Runway incident cover-up...

Post by stratofreighter » 17 Feb 2020, 15:48

...and now also in English:
https://nltimes.nl/2020/02/17/16-planes ... reportedly
LVNL is now demanding that NH Nieuws remove a published fragment in which air traffic controllers can be heard instructing planes to land on a closed runway,
and is threatening to take the broadcaster to court if it doesn't, NH Nieuws wrote.

According to the broadcaster, LVNL is relying on a European regulation,
which states that recordings of air traffic control may be listened to, but not published again.

NH Nieuws said that the social and journalistic importance of this fragment is of such concern that it will not be deleted.
The safety situation at Schiphol is an important and relevant topic, the broadcaster said.

NH Nieuws also said that air traffic control makes selective use of this European regulation. :!:

The broadcaster referred to a recording of King Willem-Alexander communicating with air traffic control as a pilot that was published on social media.
A communications adviser for LVNL called this a "nice fragment".

Last month, LVNL also allowed a vlogger into the control tower, and sound clips were published on their video blog, NH Nieuws said.
...Sam Chui at
https://samchui.com/2020/01/20/amsterda ... rol-visit/ ...

The Netherlands association for journalism NVJ is impressed with NH Nieuws for standing its ground, general secretary Thomas Bruning said on Twitter.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/02/17/16-planes ... reportedly
Indeed, it is not only about safety anymore,
it is about censorship. :!:
https://www.villamedia.nl/artikel/lucht ... -nh-nieuws
is the official website of the Dutch Journalists' Association...

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Re: 17feb2020: Dutch ATC wants to censor this Youtube-clip made by public newsstation. Runway incident cover-up...

Post by 737MAX » 17 Feb 2020, 16:46

I completely understand why they want this kind of stuff to be removed from the internet. IMHO, it doesn’t bring anything in favour of safety; it only brings non-sense from all kinds of people who have no clue of what it’s all about.

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Re: 17feb2020: Dutch ATC wants to censor this Youtube-clip made by public newsstation. Runway incident cover-up...

Post by stratofreighter » 17 Feb 2020, 16:58

...it is not just about safety any more, it is about censorship.

Or more precisely, arbitrarily randomly enforcing rules on others
while breaking these themselves on occasion.
https://twitter.com/dsajet/status/1229091538057256962
Klopt. En LVNL cherrypickt in die wet.
Verbieden wat ze niet uitkomt,
toejuichen dat wat ze in het zonnetje zet.
Examples :?:
Click on
https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/262102/l ... -landingen .
Yes, even the CEO of LVNL/Dutch ATC
himself!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NFq2eZSDJE


Yes, he used to be a KLM-pilot...
https://nl.linkedin.com/in/michiel-van-dorst
Info
Michiel van Dorst is CEO and Chairman of the Executive Board of Air Traffic Control the Netherlands (LVNL) since May 2016. Van Dorst is committed to ensuring that the organization delivers world-class performance and fulfill its purpose: Enabling aviation together. He leads a major change process to a more adaptive organization with a strong focus on safety, customers and stakeholders.

Before joining LVNL, Van Dorst worked at KLM Royal Dutch Airlines for more than two decades. From 2010 to 2016 he represented companywide operations within KLM’s Executive Committee, while being a captain on the Boeing 737 and Boeing 777.

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