Brussels Airlines in 2020

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by CTBke » 06 Jan 2020, 21:37

TLspotting wrote:
06 Jan 2020, 18:48
CTBke wrote:
06 Jan 2020, 15:58
It appears OO-SNG left the fleet , also part of the cost saving project and decreased flights?
https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/brussels
To be registered as OK-HEU at CSA Czech, new "owner" of the aircraft.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 06 Jan 2020, 23:38

Now official : the LOOP loyalty program is over...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by SLM » 07 Jan 2020, 15:45

What's next? OO-SNG left, the LOOP loyalty program is over, the name of Brussels Airlines?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Ansett » 07 Jan 2020, 16:01

SN needs to save, to save a lot to reach the financial goals set by LH.

Measure no. 1 : No more free catering in Flex&Fast (in December I took a return flight to GVA in Flex&Fast which cost more than 500 euro ! And you cannot even get a free glass of water for that price !).
Measure No. 1 penalizes high revenue pax.

Measure No. 2 : bye bye Loop, the loyalty programme for less frequent flyers or low revenue pax who would never get a M&M bonus ticket.
"Simplifying the loyalty or FFP is not the real reason". It's saving wherever SN can. However, EW's loyalty programme is still alive.
Measure no. 2 penalizes low revenue pax.

I wander what will come next. I don't dare to say what could still be done. :( They are stripping service and perks. The easiest way to push passengers who still flew SN to really compare SN fares with those of LCC competitors… and to loose pax and revenue.

(To GVA there is little competition and SN has the advantage of the frequencies, hence the high fares they can ask for ; FR is reducing its presence at BRU ; good news for SN ?).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by lumumba » 07 Jan 2020, 18:07

Are there still A330-300 with seats from other airlines in Business?
Last edited by lumumba on 07 Jan 2020, 22:11, edited 2 times in total.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sn26567 » 07 Jan 2020, 18:19

Ansett wrote:
04 Jan 2020, 16:01
Is SN going to get the A321LR ?
Not so long ago, I asked the question to Christina Foerster. She answered, "I would like to buy it, but I don't have the money." Case closed!
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by jan_olieslagers » 07 Jan 2020, 18:27

... "but I found myself unable to convince my bosses/shareholders" ? That would indeed close HER case!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Jetter » 07 Jan 2020, 20:32

sn26567 wrote:
07 Jan 2020, 18:19
Ansett wrote:
04 Jan 2020, 16:01
Is SN going to get the A321LR ?
Not so long ago, I asked the question to Christina Foerster. She answered, "I would like to buy it, but I don't have the money." Case closed!
Spohr has said 'EBIT must come before new planes' earlier so no surprise here. But the A321XLR would be a perfect plane for SN.r

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Auka » 08 Jan 2020, 12:45

I didn't find any flight to FUE with SN, does they stop this destination ? :( I asked them on twitter but a short reply with "we have no flight in july to FUE"

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sn26567 » 08 Jan 2020, 14:23

Auka wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 12:45
I didn't find any flight to FUE with SN, does they stop this destination ? :( I asked them on twitter but a short reply with "we have no flight in july to FUE"
With the loss of the Thomas Cook Belgium contract (for obvious reasons), some destinations have indeed been cancelled next summer, while other destinations will have their frequencies reduced.

Fuerteventura is essentially a seasonal destination and it might indeed not be operated during the summer.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Iefleroy » 08 Jan 2020, 20:57

So With SN552 landed this morning in BRU
YYZ-BRU is now definitively over...

Air Canada will take over the line only as from May
Pitty...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by rwandan-flyer » 10 Jan 2020, 09:28

Iefleroy wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 20:57
So With SN552 landed this morning in BRU
YYZ-BRU is now definitively over...

Air Canada will take over the line only as from May
Pitty...
Why pitty ? It's a common thing in aviation.

Air France operated in the past a daily service to Cincinati. Flights are now operated by Delta Airlines. Same thing with CDG Philadelphia. Flights were operated by Delta Airlines, after Air France ended its service,


During years, Air France operated seasonal service to Chicago (in summer), while Delta Airlines operated the seasonal service, in winter. CDG-ORD is now a year round service operated only by Air France

Air France operates a seasonnal service to Minneapolis during the summer, while Delta Airlines operates a year round service

In 2020, from CDG Delta and Air France serve:

Delta: Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati, Detroit, Indianapolis, Los Angeles, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New York–JFK, Raleigh/Durham, Salt Lake City, Seattle/Tacoma. Up to 13-14 DL flights a day, in summer, believe me, it was a bit sporty, last summet at CDG :mrgreen:

Air France: Atlanta, Boston, Chicago–O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, (summer), Detroit, Houston–Intercontinental, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul(summer), New York–JFK, San Francisco, Seattle/Tacoma, Washington–Dulles.

Portland was supposed to open in summer 2019, with Delta Airlines. Austin was in project, but flights will be operated by Norwegian, from CDG


I understand, that SN is facing off to some pbs, and i was sometimes the 1st to say, i wonder if they consider Kigali as good market, with the new competition to Rwanda (KLM, TK, Qatar Airways,...). But sometimes, i feel, that they are bashing against this airline, some things happen at SN, happen also with some airlines ( i m talk about synergy or JV)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by nordikcam » 13 Jan 2020, 17:18

Finally ! SN's figures will ultimately be separate from those of Eurowings.

Source : https://www.lalibre.be/economie/entrepr ... 70ae125179

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sn26567 » 13 Jan 2020, 17:52

nordikcam wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 17:18
Finally ! SN's figures will ultimately be separate from those of Eurowings.
But...

In line with evolving market practices, Lufthansa Group and thus also Brussels Airlines will no longer disclose monthly traffic data from January 2020. Traffic data will be reported as part of the quarterly results releases instead.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by lumumba » 16 Jan 2020, 10:19

No newspaper anymore on long haul flights in Business with Brussels airlines.
I find this completely outrageous and unacceptable!!!!

With Lufthansa you can download your newspaper but you still have your papers on the plane in fact I never traveled on long haul in Business with an airline not offering newspapers!!!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by convair » 16 Jan 2020, 10:40

lumumba wrote:
16 Jan 2020, 10:19
No newspaper anymore on long haul flights in Business with Brussels airlines.
I find this completely outrageous and unacceptable!!!!

With Lufthansa you can download your newspaper but you still have your papers on the plane in fact I never traveled on long haul in Business with an airline not offering newspapers!!!
If confirmed, it's a ridiculous decision! :shock:

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Passenger » 16 Jan 2020, 11:23

convair wrote:
16 Jan 2020, 10:40
lumumba wrote:
16 Jan 2020, 10:19
No newspaper anymore on long haul flights in Business with Brussels airlines.
I find this completely outrageous and unacceptable!!!!

With Lufthansa you can download your newspaper but you still have your papers on the plane in fact I never traveled on long haul in Business with an airline not offering newspapers!!!
If confirmed, it's a ridiculous decision! :shock:
B.llshit lumumba (as usual when you post something about Brussels Airlines).
IF you fly Brussels Airlines in Business Class, you get a free login to an online newspaper.

See article from the homepage, 29th October 2019:
Brussels Airlines replaces printed newspapers with e-newspapers

Digital alternatives are replacing paper across the travel journey at Brussels Airlines. 52% of the airline’s guests already exchanged the paper boarding pass for a smartphone version. Now, the Belgian company wants to bring the digitalisation on board by replacing its newspapers by digital copies. The removal of printed newspapers on its 250 flights per day avoids 115 tons of transported weight per year, decreasing fuel consumption and thus CO2 emissions.

As from 27 October 2019, Brussels Airlines will remove all printed newspapers from its flights. Instead, guests in all travel classes receive a subscription to the digital newspaper of their choice. The switch to digital newspapers only is a logical choice, as the airline wants to meet today’s digital standards as well as reduce its ecological footprint. The removal of the printed newspapers on its 250 daily flights decreases the weight of the aircraft and hence its fuel consumption, leading to 35 tonnes of CO2 reductions.

The digital news offer contains the following newspapers and magazines: Het Laatste Nieuws, De Tijd, Algemeen Dagblad, De Volkskrant, Het Parool, Trouw, Le Soir, L’Echo, La Capitale, La Meuse, La Gazette, La Province, Nord Eclair.

Not only on board, but also before the flight digital possibilities replace paper during the travel process. In 2018, 52% of all Brussels Airlines passengers used their smartphone to board their flight and the numbers continue to rise. As the airline continuously renews itself to be part of this digitalised world, it has now launched a new version of its mobile app, including an easy boarding pass access that stores your boarding pass for you even if you had not checked in via the app. Find out more about the new app on brusselsairlines.com

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ewspapers/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Inquirer » 16 Jan 2020, 11:31

What is all this sudden surprise about? Is has been the case since months, guys.
Everybody is moving away from paper and towards electronic copies of everything you can imagine: your bank statements, your taxman's fiscal declaration form and indeed airlines too with boarding passes and newspapers etc.
One can freely download whatever newspapers you'd want to read digitally onto your personal tablet: easy, green and probably cheaper too. And you always have the latest version of your choice (which is wider than before) and no more yesterday's papers on the early morning flights to BRU or the longhaul flights.
It's an improvement to me even, in fact!?
Or do you really prefer reading the news of Monday in the Tuesday newspapers on a Wednesday morning flight? :shock:

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by luchtzak » 16 Jan 2020, 12:56

While for a long time I preferred my traditional paper copy of a newspaper, I have also changed to a digital copy, which I read on my tablet. For example: Het Laatste Nieuws can be bought and downloaded for €0,99. It's a mentality change, but I like it.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by 737MAX » 16 Jan 2020, 17:09

luchtzak wrote:
16 Jan 2020, 12:56
While for a long time I preferred my traditional paper copy of a newspaper, I have also changed to a digital copy, which I read on my tablet. For example: Het Laatste Nieuws can be bought and downloaded for €0,99. It's a mentality change, but I like it.
Completely agree! Thousands of newspapers are sent to the garbage everyday.
High time to switch to the electronic version if you really need your newspaper in a plane.

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