Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

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JOVAN
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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by JOVAN » 19 Aug 2019, 21:05

What is difference between passportcontrol and bordecontrol ?

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by lumumba » 19 Aug 2019, 22:17

Conti764 wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Stij wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 09:57
Not being a professional...

Is it correct there are 4 types of passengers

- Unchecked departing passengers
- Security checked departing passengers and passengers coming from Schengen flights.
- Security and border checked departing passengers
- Arriving passengers from non-Schengen flights.

Is it correct that when transferring from

- Schengen to Schengen there are no checks (but your ID card when boarding).
- Non-Schengen to Non-Schengen just a security check (and your ID card when boarding).
- Schengen to Non-Schengen just the border control
- Non-Schengen to Schengen both security and border control

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Stij
Pax originating at BRU intrashengen: ID-check + security.
Pax originating at BRU extrashengen: Passportcontrol + security.
Pax A to B: border control.
Pax B to A (shengen citizens, US, Canada): border control.
Pax B to A (all others): security + border control.
There is no ID check and no security check when you are on a intrashengen connection when transiting true the A concourse you simply go from one gate to another and sure they check your name at the boarding but this is not a ID check.

Even when you originating from a Schengen destination to an international you don't have a security check only if you are originating from outside a Schengen destination you have a security check.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by Jetter » 20 Aug 2019, 00:55

Conti764 wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Pax B to A (shengen citizens, US, Canada): border control.
So no security control? This video from BRU itself shows otherwise:

(But I haven't seen the actual situation myself as I don't transfer).

Security control from non-Shengen EU countries, the US and Canada is unnecessary and should be abolished.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by Conti764 » 20 Aug 2019, 14:07

JOVAN wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 21:04
Conti764 wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Stij wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 09:57
Not being a professional...

Is it correct there are 4 types of passengers

- Unchecked departing passengers
- Security checked departing passengers and passengers coming from Schengen flights.
- Security and border checked departing passengers
- Arriving passengers from non-Schengen flights.

Is it correct that when transferring from

- Schengen to Schengen there are no checks (but your ID card when boarding).
- Non-Schengen to Non-Schengen just a security check (and your ID card when boarding).
- Schengen to Non-Schengen just the border control
- Non-Schengen to Schengen both security and border control

Kind regards,

Stij
Pax originating at BRU intrashengen: ID-check + security.
Pax originating at BRU extrashengen: Passportcontrol + security.
Pax A to B: border control.
Pax B to A (shengen citizens, US, Canada): border control.
Pax B to A (all others): security + border control.
What is the difference between passport control and border control?
None. My mistake ;)

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by Conti764 » 20 Aug 2019, 14:11

Jetter wrote:
20 Aug 2019, 00:55
Conti764 wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Pax B to A (shengen citizens, US, Canada): border control.
So no security control? This video from BRU itself shows otherwise:

(But I haven't seen the actual situation myself as I don't transfer).

Security control from non-Shengen EU countries, the US and Canada is unnecessary and should be abolished.
There is a second passage on the other side of the passport control to enter the B-pier from the connector. Only the forementioned pax (EU, US, Canada) can pass that border control. When I'm back at BRU, I'll check out the route :)

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by RoMax » 21 Aug 2019, 08:59

Flights coming from those so called one-stop-security countries allow transfer pax to go directly back up to the departures level of Pier B (so no security or passport check), if you connect onwards to non-Schengen you either just stay in Pier B or take the B to T bus transfer to T zone. Otherwise you follow the transfer flow from Pier B departures to Pier A and that will lead you through a seperate passport control (as you enter the Schengen zone) which is seen from Pier B directly left of the passport control going into Pier B (if you depart from Pier B its not so obvious, but from that perspective right of the automated gates, you see another set of staffed border control counters that are separated from the departures Pier B flow by a glass wall, those are for the one-stop-security transfers to Pier A).

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by Jetter » 23 Aug 2019, 23:03

Conti764 wrote:
20 Aug 2019, 14:11
Jetter wrote:
20 Aug 2019, 00:55
Conti764 wrote:
19 Aug 2019, 12:40
Pax B to A (shengen citizens, US, Canada): border control.
So no security control? This video from BRU itself shows otherwise:

(But I haven't seen the actual situation myself as I don't transfer).

Security control from non-Shengen EU countries, the US and Canada is unnecessary and should be abolished.
There is a second passage on the other side of the passport control to enter the B-pier from the connector. Only the forementioned pax (EU, US, Canada) can pass that border control. When I'm back at BRU, I'll check out the route :)
You mean this passage? That is allowed for all B to B transfers but does involve security control.


When looking around after my arrival at pier B I noticed that every transferring passenger has to go through security which is unnecessary in many instances. Problems like these could be avoided when separating passengers from secure and non-secure airports: www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1429801

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance, Oneworld and Skyteam under one roof?

Post by Conti764 » 24 Aug 2019, 17:16

Jetter wrote:
23 Aug 2019, 23:03
Conti764 wrote:
20 Aug 2019, 14:11
Jetter wrote:
20 Aug 2019, 00:55

So no security control? This video from BRU itself shows otherwise:

(But I haven't seen the actual situation myself as I don't transfer).

Security control from non-Shengen EU countries, the US and Canada is unnecessary and should be abolished.
There is a second passage on the other side of the passport control to enter the B-pier from the connector. Only the forementioned pax (EU, US, Canada) can pass that border control. When I'm back at BRU, I'll check out the route :)
You mean this passage? That is allowed for all B to B transfers but does involve security control.


When looking around after my arrival at pier B I noticed that every transferring passenger has to go through security which is unnecessary in many instances. Problems like these could be avoided when separating passengers from secure and non-secure airports: www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1429801
Nope. B to A... Rommax explained it very well.

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