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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by sn26567 » 19 Mar 2019, 22:16

Atlantis wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 22:12
The whole Vision 2040 is very ambitious I would say. Finally an airport management who has the guts to reveal great plans for the future, with more terminals, piers, longer runways, more pax, etc etc

They had the guts to sit in front of the people who are living in the neighborhood of the airport to hear them during the debates. Finally actions and not only words
... and three new shareholders who want to see a return on their investment:

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/brus ... reholders/
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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by Boavida » 19 Mar 2019, 23:36

Atlantis wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 19:18

At the same time, with the new Terminal (or the Terminal of the Future) you can give them even an own check in and fast connection to the concourse. The new part of the terminal for OW with direct access to the A-Concourse and the "old part" of the terminal to Star with direct access to the B-concourse
About this 'terminal of the future': are we talking about a brand new terminal building or a renovation of the current one?

I always thought a great place for a new terminal is the ugly & old Swissport building (next to the busstation).

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by Jetter » 20 Mar 2019, 01:26

Conti764 wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 21:12
since in my idea BRU would mainly serve a function as reliever hub to LHR, thus having smooth connections extra shengen.
Problem is IAG purchased Aer Lingus for this purpose.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by Atlantis » 20 Mar 2019, 13:13

JOVAN wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 21:12
Indeed nothing is to be expected from LH.


the Chinese tourists will keep on coming to Europe, there is certainly room for more connections to other "less known" cities (Chengdu, Tianjin, Guanghzou, Xiamen, Qingdao...); all have bigger population than Paris, Berlin...
We had in the past China Eastern at BRU but they are now working closely with Skyteam

But Hainan Airlines had in the past the intention to make form BRU their European hub between China and the US. They wanted to create before this a few things like their own hotel, Chinese banks, etc. They realized this bcs they bought very close to Brussels a famous and huge hotel. Chinese tourists are using this now mainly. Chinese banks also came.

In meantime Hainan decided to open a fourth destination from China to France. Like it was in the past, shortly after they also opened a new destination to BRU. So maybe there is sth new in the pipeline

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by ZavCity » 20 Mar 2019, 15:42

I read a few months ago an article stating that only 1 chinese carrier had authorisation to fly to Belgium..??true??
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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by JOVAN » 20 Mar 2019, 20:54

jan_olieslagers wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 10:03
TGV/ Eurostar connections easy to realize from BRU.
Perhaps not so easy as implied: with its measly three platforms, the railway station is close to maximum capacity. It must be said, though, that this is at least partly due to its use as a terminal station: some trains occupy the platforms much longer than just the time for transferring passengers. And no, it won't be easy to add platform capacity, plus nobody wants more Diabolo tax.

One possible formula could be to have a HST from either London or Paris pass by the Brussels South, Central and North stations, enter the airport from the North, and continue towards Liege, perhaps even continuing into Germany. But even that might be quite complicated to implement. HST from Paris could even avoid the (itself saturated) South-North transfer by using line 26, passing Brussels on the East side.
AMS Train station has 6 platforms (10 tracks ?): it is a very busy and popular station.
BRU train station has 3 (5 tracks): I think all are go-thru ; so also a lot of possibilities. Connections to Germany are very few.

Diabolo tax should be cancelled and repalced by an extra amount in the airport tax.
Or better: the airport should bear this costs and then profit by attracting more passengers.Airport taxes are high enough now.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by Conti764 » 20 Mar 2019, 22:40

JOVAN wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 20:54
jan_olieslagers wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 10:03
TGV/ Eurostar connections easy to realize from BRU.
Perhaps not so easy as implied: with its measly three platforms, the railway station is close to maximum capacity. It must be said, though, that this is at least partly due to its use as a terminal station: some trains occupy the platforms much longer than just the time for transferring passengers. And no, it won't be easy to add platform capacity, plus nobody wants more Diabolo tax.

One possible formula could be to have a HST from either London or Paris pass by the Brussels South, Central and North stations, enter the airport from the North, and continue towards Liege, perhaps even continuing into Germany. But even that might be quite complicated to implement. HST from Paris could even avoid the (itself saturated) South-North transfer by using line 26, passing Brussels on the East side.
AMS Train station has 6 platforms (10 tracks ?): it is a very busy and popular station.
BRU train station has 3 (5 tracks): I think all are go-thru ; so also a lot of possibilities. Connections to Germany are very few.

Diabolo tax should be cancelled and repalced by an extra amount in the airport tax.
Or better: the airport should bear this costs and then profit by attracting more passengers.Airport taxes are high enough now.
BRU has two platforms and three tracks in both directions.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by lumumba » 20 Mar 2019, 22:56

JOVAN wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 20:54
jan_olieslagers wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 10:03
TGV/ Eurostar connections easy to realize from BRU.
Perhaps not so easy as implied: with its measly three platforms, the railway station is close to maximum capacity. It must be said, though, that this is at least partly due to its use as a terminal station: some trains occupy the platforms much longer than just the time for transferring passengers. And no, it won't be easy to add platform capacity, plus nobody wants more Diabolo tax.

One possible formula could be to have a HST from either London or Paris pass by the Brussels South, Central and North stations, enter the airport from the North, and continue towards Liege, perhaps even continuing into Germany. But even that might be quite complicated to implement. HST from Paris could even avoid the (itself saturated) South-North transfer by using line 26, passing Brussels on the East side.
AMS Train station has 6 platforms (10 tracks ?): it is a very busy and popular station.
BRU train station has 3 (5 tracks): I think all are go-thru ; so also a lot of possibilities. Connections to Germany are very few.

Diabolo tax should be cancelled and repalced by an extra amount in the airport tax.
Or better: the airport should bear this costs and then profit by attracting more passengers.Airport taxes are high enough now.
You can not cancel the Diabolo tax because that's private money that financed the tunnel.
Or maybe you could buy the tunnel investment from the private company but I don't think there is money for that!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by jan_olieslagers » 21 Mar 2019, 09:14

The map shows three tracks:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.89761/4.48465

And looking in the real-time info for the station I see 3 platforms being used - unsurprisingly #s 1, 2, 3.
http://www.belgianrail.be/jp/sncb-nmbs- ... yStopsSID=

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by webstermc » 21 Mar 2019, 09:24

I've been in the trainstation monday (I came back from Bilbao).
Indeed only 2 platforms and 3 tracks in total

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2019, 10:04

The discussions about the train station are far away from the subject. Could you please continue in the BRU infrastructure topic?
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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU) infrastructure: future

Post by Conti764 » 21 Mar 2019, 13:50

Jetter wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 01:26
Conti764 wrote:
19 Mar 2019, 21:12
since in my idea BRU would mainly serve a function as reliever hub to LHR, thus having smooth connections extra shengen.
Problem is IAG purchased Aer Lingus for this purpose.
BRU is right in the middle between three huge competing alliances hubs: AMS, CDG (ST) and FRA (*A). It might offer OW some opportunities to steal away some traffic from KL, AF, LH, UA, name it... besides the (partially) relieve hub function...

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Re: Brussels Airport (BRU): Star Alliance and Oneworld under one roof?

Post by TLspotting » 15 Apr 2019, 22:29

Belgium is between all these hubs and we are all waiting for a miracle !
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