Brussels Airlines in 2019

rwandan-flyer · Post by **rwandan-flyer** » 03 Dec 2019, 18:30

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Unread post by Poiu » Today, 15:53

sn26567 wrote: ↑
Today, 15:26
It is not yet decided.

It has been decided, but it’s not official yet.

A déjà vu of Christophe Muller replacing Paul Reutlimger at Sabena and introducing a draconian restructuration plan shortly afterwards.

In deed, in French, we say: "On sait ce que l'on perd, mais on ne sait pas ce que l'on gagne".

"We know what we loose, but we don't know, what we get, after."

Future tell us, if it's a good news or not.

Passenger · Post by **Passenger** » 03 Dec 2019, 19:13

convair wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 15:53

sn26567 wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 12:06
Full story: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... lufthansa/
Not a word on the status of SN within the group!

Big scandal indeed. Shame on them. Let's boycot them. Although... Wait a second... There is even not a word about "the status of Swiss" and/or "the status of Austrian" and/or "the status of Germanwings" and/or "the status of Lufthansa Cargo" in that press release. Maybe because, after all, it's a press release about a reshuffle of the Executive Board? Nothing less, nothing more.
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/Eng ... c165a4599c

Conti764 · Post by **Conti764** » 03 Dec 2019, 20:33

convair wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 15:53

sn26567 wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 12:06
Full story: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... lufthansa/
Not a word on the status of SN within the group!

Because it is about the Lufthansa Group and not individual airlines?

The picture provided with the tails is a nice gesture imho...

Boavida · Post by **Boavida** » 03 Dec 2019, 23:09

Conti764 wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 20:33

The picture provided with the tails is a nice gesture imho...

Oh look (all the way in the back):

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... ports.html

They completely messed up the b-tail, but the gesture is indeed appreciated!

Jetter · Post by **Jetter** » 04 Dec 2019, 05:36

Conti764 wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 20:33
The picture provided with the tails is a nice gesture imho...

A very nice gesture to Drussels Airlines!

On main parts of the website SN is still totally ignored www.lufthansagroup.com/en/company/busin ... ments.html

The CEO leaving at a crucial time isn't a good sign. A captain shouldn't leave a ship that is barely afloat to make a promotion. At least I hope she can aford a decent wardobe with her new salary.

convair · Post by **convair** » 04 Dec 2019, 11:03

Boavida wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 23:09

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... ports.html

They completely messed up the b-tail, but the gesture is indeed appreciated!

It's a mirror-image in the glass-panel building.

Inquirer · Post by **Inquirer** » 04 Dec 2019, 11:07

Boavida wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 23:09

Conti764 wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 20:33

The picture provided with the tails is a nice gesture imho...
Oh look (all the way in the back):

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... ports.html

They completely messed up the b-tail, but the gesture is indeed appreciated!

If you look at a line up in the reflection of a window like on the picture posted, the reflection of the different tails is exactly as it is shown there: it's a poor visual composition due to the rather odd logo of Brussels Airlines indeed, but it is entirely correct. Putting the logo 'right' in the picture would in fact mean the line up is impossible.

To me, it shows once more that Brussels Airlines is truly 'upgraded' within to group since recently now, because the composition pre-dates their untangling from Eurowings when they weren't even considered for the line up and so the issue of the difficulty to mirror their logo wasn't around: you'll find the same pictures without them in older publications of Lufthansa group.

Shows again what an inflexible logo they have: it always looks odd on one side of the plane, no matter what you do to it. Not a big fan of it myself.

Some people are really a bit too eager to find a stick to beat Lufthansa with, it seems.
I think quite a few people suffer from tunnel vision here, if they truly think the main priority should be for Lufthanssa to completely and immediately revise their entire corporate communications manual because some modest entity like Brussels Airlines is in the process of being moved from one business unit to another! ROTFL!
Just be happy for once that you have such a lenient shareholder: not all investors show the same patience with underperforming equity investments. Oh, and you'll soon get a Belgian CEO on top again: who would have thought this would be the situation 2 years ago, when Mr. Gustin left the airlines?

Post by **sn26567** » 04 Dec 2019, 15:13

Boavida wrote: ↑
03 Dec 2019, 12:40
De Standaard reports that a Belgian(!) will be the new CEO of Brussels Airlines: Dieter Vranckx (apparently he worked for Swiss)

Not only for Swiss, but also for Swissair and Sabena and Lufthansa (passengers and cargo).

Homo Aeroportus · Post by **Homo Aeroportus** » 05 Dec 2019, 14:17

Tour de France

H.A.

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Boavida · Post by **Boavida** » 06 Dec 2019, 00:33

Autour de France

rwandan-flyer · Post by **rwandan-flyer** » 06 Dec 2019, 19:47

The Brussels Kigali flight plan is almost the same one, each flight. RwandAir has also almost the same flight plan, although sometimes, they fly over Nice (from Kigali) and Perpignan (from Brussels). They did this, when they started flights to Europe, in 2017, it's less the case now.

lucas · Post by **lucas** » 10 Dec 2019, 11:41

Congratulations to Brussels Airlines! Today Brussels Airlines is part of Star Alliance for ten years!

HQ_BRU_Lover · Post by **HQ_BRU_Lover** » 10 Dec 2019, 12:40

lucas wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2019, 11:41
Congratulations to Brussels Airlines! Today Brussels Airlines is part of Star Alliance for ten years!

Without attacking SN as an airline at all, I'm not sure if we have to applaud or cry for that Star Alliance part

kazansky137 · Post by **kazansky137** » 10 Dec 2019, 14:59

Hello, does anyone has an idea why BEL371 bounded to DLA/NSI has been cancelled today Dec 10 ? Seems to be replaced by BEL373 BRU -> NSI/DLA in the afternoon.

Post by **Stij** » 10 Dec 2019, 15:06

Hello Kazansky137,

Welcome to Aviation24.
Unfortunately I can't help you. Maybe someone else?

Kind regards,

Stij

Homo Aeroportus · Post by **Homo Aeroportus** » 10 Dec 2019, 18:22

Show time at BRU this evening.
About one hundred passengers are surrounding the SN ticketing desk. Apparently unhappy campers of derailed SN371 to DLA this morning.
BRU web site still announces an SN373 to depart for NSI/DLA at 16:30 but that seems optimistic if it is meant for today.

Dozens of Police and even Customs officers around so the Pax don't feel lonely.
Press being given a tour.

H.A.

A321Lufthansa · Post by **A321Lufthansa** » 10 Dec 2019, 18:53

OO-SNG was ferried LJU-OSR today. Repaint into the next owner’s cs? Is it known already?

nordikcam · Post by **nordikcam** » 10 Dec 2019, 20:05

Homo Aeroportus wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2019, 18:22
Show time at BRU this evening.
About one hundred passengers are surrounding the SN ticketing desk. Apparently unhappy campers of derailed SN371 to DLA this morning.
BRU web site still announces an SN373 to depart for NSI/DLA at 16:30 but that seems optimistic if it is meant for today.

Dozens of Police and even Customs officers around so the Pax don't feel lonely.
Press being given a tour.

H.A.

Festival continues.
And meanwhile AF / KL scores points in Africa ... SN has become one of the smallest players ...and SN373 is not a flight for today...but tomorrow ...or later...or never ! 100 passengers...they can send an AVRO...no ?

rwandan-flyer · Post by **rwandan-flyer** » 10 Dec 2019, 20:53

Festival continues.
And meanwhile AF / KL scores points in Africa ... SN has become one of the smallest players ...and SN373 is not a flight for today...but tomorrow ...or later...or never ! 100 passengers...they can send an AVRO...no ?

Pretty sad that you don't publish such news, sometimes. Ok some people will tell me, that this poll is biased, because Air Portuagl often cited as an example, on this forum, is far behind.

Senegalese travelers vote for Brussels Airlines

© Belpress.com
Patrick Anspach
November 11, 2019 12:10

According to Senegalese netizens, the Belgian company is the one that offers the best services, far ahead of Air France-KLM and the national company of Senegal.

A Senegalese site, "Au-Senegal.com", solicited users for three weeks to know their opinion on air carriers serving their country. With 29% of the positive votes, Brussels Airlines (SN) is well ahead of the most "popular" companies. The Air France-KLM group comes in second place with 15%, then Air Senegal, Iberia and Emirates, each with about 4%.

On the side of the carriers considered as "to avoid", one finds TAP Air Portugal (appreciated for its tariffs, but pointed for its delays and the little consideration towards the passengers), Royal Air Maroc and Air Algeria.

SN and Air France receive top marks for reception, ticket booking, on-board services and baggage and litigation management. "Air France, in return, is considered expensive," details the Belgian specialist website Pagtour.

https://www.lecho.be/entreprises/aviati ... 80560.html

nordikcam · Post by **nordikcam** » 10 Dec 2019, 21:31

rwandan-flyer wrote: ↑
10 Dec 2019, 20:53

Festival continues.
And meanwhile AF / KL scores points in Africa ... SN has become one of the smallest players ...and SN373 is not a flight for today...but tomorrow ...or later...or never ! 100 passengers...they can send an AVRO...no ?
Pretty sad that you don't publish such news, sometimes. Ok some people will tell me, that this poll is biased, because Air Portuagl often cited as an example, on this forum, is far behind.

Senegalese travelers vote for Brussels Airlines

© Belpress.com
Patrick Anspach
November 11, 2019 12:10

According to Senegalese netizens, the Belgian company is the one that offers the best services, far ahead of Air France-KLM and the national company of Senegal.

A Senegalese site, "Au-Senegal.com", solicited users for three weeks to know their opinion on air carriers serving their country. With 29% of the positive votes, Brussels Airlines (SN) is well ahead of the most "popular" companies. The Air France-KLM group comes in second place with 15%, then Air Senegal, Iberia and Emirates, each with about 4%.

On the side of the carriers considered as "to avoid", one finds TAP Air Portugal (appreciated for its tariffs, but pointed for its delays and the little consideration towards the passengers), Royal Air Maroc and Air Algeria.

SN and Air France receive top marks for reception, ticket booking, on-board services and baggage and litigation management. "Air France, in return, is considered expensive," details the Belgian specialist website Pagtour.

https://www.lecho.be/entreprises/aviati ... 80560.html

Speaking about experience...AF experience vs KL experience vs SN experience ! ...What argument would you give me after 3 successive cancellations of flights on YYZ. SN even managed to cancel the replacement flight. Tell me about the last two weeks a single long haul flight departed on time? One only. SN is unable to manage the long-haul fleet ... European flights are globally ok ... globally! They do what they can, I think so and they can not do it. They can't !