Austrian Airlines in 2019

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 14 Aug 2019, 22:29

Austrian to codeshare on Eurowings' planned routes in 2020: Frankfurt – Anchorage, Frankfurt – Phoenix, Munich – Las Vegas, Munich – Orlando

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 27 Sep 2019, 15:59

Austrian Airlines and Eurowings are repositioning themselves in Austria and reinforce their cooperation. The common goal is to strengthen the Vienna hub and expand decentralised traffic from the Austrian federal states.

Austrian will take over several Eurowings routes from Vienna, including Barcelona, Rome, Nuremberg, Birmingham, Zadar.

It makes the rumoured base closure of Eurowings in Vienna even more likely.
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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 21 Oct 2019, 21:19

sn26567 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 15:59
Austrian Airlines and Eurowings are repositioning themselves in Austria and reinforce their cooperation. The common goal is to strengthen the Vienna hub and expand decentralised traffic from the Austrian federal states.
Lufthansa to assume flights from Frankfort to Graz and Salzburg from Austrian Airlines by early 2020. The carrier will operate A319, A320, CRJ900, and E190.
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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Boeing767copilot » 02 Nov 2019, 14:49

Austrian Airlines to cut costs, jobs as LCC competition intensifies.

http://m.atwonline.com/airlines/austria ... ntensifies

Can we expect the same scenario for SN?

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 02 Nov 2019, 18:29

Boeing767copilot wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 14:49
Austrian Airlines to cut costs, jobs as LCC competition intensifies.

http://m.atwonline.com/airlines/austria ... ntensifies

Can we expect the same scenario for SN?
The situation at OS looks even worse than at SN (which is not expected to fire people, but rely only on natural departures to slim down)
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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by DeltaWiskey » 02 Nov 2019, 18:44

sn26567 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 18:29
Boeing767copilot wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 14:49
Austrian Airlines to cut costs, jobs as LCC competition intensifies.

http://m.atwonline.com/airlines/austria ... ntensifies

Can we expect the same scenario for SN?
The situation at OS looks even worse than at SN (which is not expected to fire people, but rely only on natural departures to slim down)
What makes you think that the situation at OS is worse than at SN?

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Poiu » 02 Nov 2019, 18:47

sn26567 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 18:29
The situation at OS looks even worse than at SN (which is not expected to fire people, but rely only on natural departures to slim down)
Voluntary departures, which is quite different from natural departures.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 02 Nov 2019, 19:12

Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 18:47
sn26567 wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 18:29
The situation at OS looks even worse than at SN (which is not expected to fire people, but rely only on natural departures to slim down)
Voluntary departures, which is quite different from natural departures.
Also numbers Brussels is break even Austrian list around 50 million...
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Poiu » 03 Nov 2019, 09:03

lumumba wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 19:12
Also numbers Brussels is break even Austrian list around 50 million...
The full year forecast, break even give or take a couple of millions, is similar for both companies.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Nov 2019, 22:29

Poiu wrote:
03 Nov 2019, 09:03
lumumba wrote:
02 Nov 2019, 19:12
Also numbers Brussels is break even Austrian list around 50 million...
The full year forecast, break even give or take a couple of millions, is similar for both companies.
But if so why is Brussels Airlines not doing the same has Austrian Airlines.
I mean they should have the same approach why is Lufthansa accepting this?

Anyway if next year Austrian is doing much better than Brussels it will be their turn !
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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by theeuropean » 04 Nov 2019, 09:41

SN should focus on itself and not wait till Austrian is profitable to do cuts itself. OS is 'technically' doing better than SN - bigger transfer market. But their bread and butter (Balkans and Eastern Europe) is getting trashed. With Wizz Air and Lauda especially, the O&D will not necessarily pick OS (they are price sensitive clientele). PS also doing a restructuring and king of cheap fares will not help OS either.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by TLspotting » 24 Nov 2019, 18:15

Austrian Airlines CEO comments on his drastic measures for the airline: “Our way forward in the light of low cost pressure”

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -pressure/
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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by JOVAN » 24 Nov 2019, 18:34

TLspotting wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 18:15
Austrian Airlines CEO comments on his drastic measures for the airline: “Our way forward in the light of low cost pressure”

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -pressure/

Quite a better and more mature, professional analysis from OS-CEO than what we are used from CF.

The few interviews she gave (eg in De Tijd,...) were trivial. Never to the point.

SN's problem is also the many LCC's, but most of all the lack of a real strategy. With BRU as a central location in the richest part of Europe, one would expect a good HUB Strategy.
Fluent connections to the 50 biggest business places in Europe, e.g. would be an idea.
And a substantial intercontinental network. No need to fly to 5O places , but 10-12 destinations (beside de African ones) would make SN a good medium size player.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Passenger » 24 Nov 2019, 19:14

Amazing how about every single topic here turns into an anti Brussels Airlines topic.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by nordikcam » 24 Nov 2019, 19:42

Passenger wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:14
Amazing how about every single topic here turns into an anti Brussels Airlines topic.
Objectively: no network (except Africa/ Europa), countless cancellations of long-haul flights (the latest dated yesterday), delays of up to 4 or 5 hours ... and indeed a CEO who interview does not seem not be up to scratch ... If SN had sufficient airplanes, a sufficient European and intercontinental network, did not cancel its flights recurrently and leave on time ... we would pay a minimum of price to fly. I would like to fly SN, I would like to fly from BRU, I'm living in Brussels, I appreciated SN but ...those times enough is enough. So, direction CDG...

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Ansett » 24 Nov 2019, 19:58

Passenger wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:14
Amazing how about every single topic here turns into an anti Brussels Airlines topic.
Please, tell us something positive about SN at the moment.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Ansett » 24 Nov 2019, 20:16

In commercial relations, a supplier of goods or services is allowed to grant discounts to his best/largest clients. That is not State aid.
Imho, but I am not a lawyer, if BAC refuses to grant more favourable conditions to his best clients when these are negotiating with them, they could invoke an abuse of dominant position. A bit off topic, sorry.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by JOVAN » 24 Nov 2019, 21:30

Ansett wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:58
Passenger wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:14
Amazing how about every single topic here turns into an anti Brussels Airlines topic.
Please, tell us something positive about SN at the moment.
I fly regularly to Asia, via Vienna.
Convenient airport, convenient flight schedules,...
Quite often the VIE-BRU flight is with SN.
Flight attendants (pilots) are Top.
European fleet looks also very up to the standard.
Also the check-in personel in BRU is Top. So are the lounge-people.
I am sure there are also very motivated people at other positions, and in the Middle-management.

There have been times, in Sabena days, that personnel was simply rude,unpolite, arrogant.

Problem, like in many companies, is the "Top-people" , CF is a miscast, no leadership , no talent, no charisma. Just close to CS.
CF is not capable apparently to analyze the real problems at SN, let alone that she will take the right measures. She looks very much like a lame duck. No power, no way to go.
LCC's and other , previously second class airlines like LOT, Aeroflot will certainly canibalize further the PAX numbers at SN.

Pity.

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by PttU » 24 Nov 2019, 21:46

Ansett wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:58
Passenger wrote:
24 Nov 2019, 19:14
Amazing how about every single topic here turns into an anti Brussels Airlines topic.
Please, tell us something positive about SN at the moment.
In an Austrian-topic?

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Re: Austrian Airlines in 2019

Post by Ansett » 24 Nov 2019, 21:51

Why not ? Nearly everbody goes off topic...
Just reacting to Passenger, which you did not seem to understand.
Have a good night's sleep

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