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Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes in Indonesia, 189 dead

Post by convair » 30 Oct 2018, 00:40

For members who, like me, do not look at the Home site of Aviation24 every day, some details are available about the crash of the Lion Air B737Max in Indonesia. 189 people including crews assumed dead!
RIP :(

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Post by luchtzak » 30 Oct 2018, 04:54

convair wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 00:40
For members who, like me, do not look at the Home site of Aviation24 every day, some details are available about the crash of the Lion Air B737Max in Indonesia. 189 people including crews assumed dead!
RIP :(
Indeed, https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lion ... near-java/

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Post by sn26567 » 08 Nov 2018, 22:12

FAA issued an emergency airworthiness directive on about 250 B737 MAXs after Boeing sent a bulletin to carriers in the aftermath of a deadly Lion Air flight.

Indonesia’s transport ministry is conducting a special audit on Lion Air, following the crash of one of its B737 MAX 8 on 29 October 2018. The audit will cover aspects including personnel qualification and standard operating procedures.
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Nov 2018, 18:28

sn26567 wrote:
08 Nov 2018, 22:12
FAA issued an emergency airworthiness directive on about 250 B737 MAXs after Boeing sent a bulletin to carriers in the aftermath of a deadly Lion Air flight.
The US pilots union ALPA told US safety regulators that the union was concerned about “a potential, significant aviation system safety deficiency” in the B737 MAX, one of which crashed last month in Indonesia.
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Post by sn26567 » 30 Nov 2018, 21:10

Boeing is weighing plans to launch a software upgrade for its B737 MAX in six to eight weeks that would help address a scenario faced by the Lion Air crew during last month’s deadly crash in Indonesia.
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Post by sn26567 » 06 Dec 2018, 23:50

Indonesia’s Lion Air is considering cancelling orders for 190 Boeing 737 MAX jets following a crash that killed 189 people in October but has not yet made a decision, the airline’s CEO Edward Sirait said on Thursday.

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Post by sn26567 » 26 Dec 2018, 11:56

Investigators studying the Lion Air crash that killed 189 people believe a critical sensor on the Boeing 737 MAX 8 was improperly calibrated by the airline’s ground crew

https://www.wsj.com/articles/maintenanc ... 1545739204
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Post by convair » 26 Dec 2018, 13:05

The famous Pitot tubes again, or has that system been changed?

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Post by luchtzak » 02 Jan 2019, 21:46

Co-pilot of downed Lion Air 610's family files suit against Boeing in Chicago

Law firm Gardiner Koch Weisberg & Wrona today filed a lawsuit against The Boeing Company on behalf of the family of Harvino, the co-pilot of Lion Air Flight 610, who died when the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft crashed into the Java Sea on October 29, 2018. All 189 people on board died upon impact.

The complaint was filed in the Circuit Court of Cook County, and alleges that the aircraft's sensors provided inaccurate information to the flight control system, improperly activating an anti-stall system that caused the aircraft to nose-dive directly into the ocean minutes after the flight had begun.

"The plane was unreasonably dangerous because its sensors provided inconsistent information to both the pilots and the aircraft," said GKWW attorney Thomas G. Gardiner. "The anti-stall system should not have automatically engaged and forced the aircraft's nose down."

The complaint also alleges that the instruction manuals provided by Boeing with the brand-new plane, a $120 million 737 MAX 8, were insufficient, leading to the death of the pilots, crew and passengers.

"Boeing failed to provide proper instructions, policies and procedures to enable the pilots to override the anti-stall system," said GKWW attorney John R. Wrona. "Despite their heroic efforts, the aircraft's malfunctioning flight control systems prevented the pilots from regaining control of the aircraft."

Harvino served as the co-pilot with Captain Bhayve Suneja during the ill-fated flight. Both men were experienced pilots, having logged over 5,000 and 6,000 flight hours prior to the disaster.

Attorneys for the plaintiff, Thomas G. Gardiner and John R. Wrona both have extensive experience in catastrophic injury and wrongful death lawsuits. Together, they have secured more than $85 million in recoveries on behalf of clients. Gardiner also has held a lifelong interest in aviation, as both his father and son are pilots.

Case Info: # 2018L013938, filed in Cook Co. Circuit Court.

Media Contact: Kate Gardiner, 312-725-0146, kate@greyhorse.cc

SOURCE Gardiner Koch Weisberg & Wrona

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Re: Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes in Indonesia, 189 dead

Post by Passenger » 14 Jan 2019, 07:50

The CVR has been found (= located, not recovered yet):
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/201 ... found.html

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Re: Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes in Indonesia, 189 dead

Post by sn26567 » 04 Feb 2019, 12:09

A remarkable article by the "failing" (© Trump) New York Times explains why Boeing did not feel like training the pilots on modifications induced by heavier, more powerful engines, which might have led to the crash:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/03/worl ... ilots.html
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