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737MAX wrote:
26 Mar 2020, 17:28
Boavida wrote:
26 Mar 2020, 15:44
I've read the A321 of the BAF is repatriating Belgians. Unfortunately there are still Belgians stuck in far away destinations a A321 can't reach. I hope the need for a long range jet within the BAF is clear now and will be discussed after this crisis.

The Luftwaffe recently got this A350. It has a long range, it's bigger than an A321 and smaller than an A330. This would be ideal for the BAF.

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The 'white fleet' would consist of 2 Dassault Falxon 7X (for short trips) and 1 A350 (for long trips).
A350 smaller than a 330?!?!?
I was also wondering. And anyway, the Belgian Air Force will retire the A321 before the end of this year and get an A330MRTT.
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No need to wonder ;-) the 350 is of course bigger than the 330.

What about the leased A330 from HiFly, do they still have a possibility to lease it/one if required? (Other than the standard ACMI contracts).

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Over the last year BAF has been using a HiFly A330 on more than one occasion, so I’d say it’s still a possibility.
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they can also use planes of Brussels airlines or Air Belgium. Why pay outside belgium if we have the planes in the country ?

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Airbus330lover wrote:
29 Mar 2020, 09:50
they can also use planes of Brussels airlines or Air Belgium. Why pay outside belgium if we have the planes in the country ?
Belgian airlines back then were asked to make an offer for various planes to the BAF. HiFly was chosen. Scandalous, but very most likely the cheapest (but yes, it’s money for Portugal...).

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Vador, via Facebook...

The FA101 successfully went through its flight test today.
As a morale booster here are some pictures I took from the new tail. I hope you will like it and let’s 🤞🏻to be able to show it around in a couple of monthes.
Stay strong 👊🏻 we will get through this all together.
The tail represent 40 years of F16 in the Belgian Air Force and what the future will be for us soon.

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sn26567 wrote:
26 Mar 2020, 18:45
the Belgian Air Force will retire the A321 before the end of this year and get an A330MRTT.
As far as I know, the A330 MRTT will be based at Eindhoven as part of a multinational fleet. According to the following website, all aircraft will get a Netherlands Air Force roundel...

https://onzeluchtmacht.nl/binnen-en-bui ... ndgemaakt/

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Is Belgium really going to use this aircraft for official (VIP) and military transport, while it carries a Dutch roundel and no Belgian markings at all ? It's absurd. Why pay for it if you can't even put your own flag on it...

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I am puzzled by the registration of this Falcon 7X (OO-LUM). I can understand that it has no longer a military registration, as it does not belong to the Air Force, but to a private company from which the Air Force is leasing the aircraft. But I'd like to know the name of this company.

It doesn't seem to be Luxaviation (which has 2 Falcon 7X in Belgium, but with a different registration).
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29 Apr 2020, 14:56
I am puzzled by the registration of this Falcon 7X (OO-LUM). I can understand that it has no longer a military registration, as it does not belong to the Air Force, but to a private company from which the Air Force is leasing the aircraft. But I'd like to know the name of this company.

It doesn't seem to be Luxaviation (which has 2 Falcon 7X in Belgium, but with a different registration).
The planes are presumably owned by Dassault Aviation (OO-LUM is still wearing the corporate livery so I assume it's a ex-demo that's a couple years old) but even though the one already delivered is sporting a registration it doesn't appear in the database (yet?). Maybe there's delay with the covid issues, guess we'll see in a few days if the plane(s) appear in the registry.

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Registration : OO-LUM stands for LUchtMacht
Contract with Abelag (Luxaviation)

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According to Gérard Gaudin from Belga press agency, the two Falcon 7X aircraft of the Belgian Air Force belong to Abelag Aviation (now called Luxaviation). The first one is registered OO-LUM (for LUchtMacht) and the second OO-FAE (for Force AErienne).
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Any news on livery ?

As these aircraft will be used for VIP/government transports, it would be nice to finally have aircraft with KINGDOM OF BELGIUM (or why not KONINKRIJK BELGIE / ROYAUME DE BELGIQUE) titles, like in other countries:


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sn26567 wrote:
29 Apr 2020, 23:40
According to Gérard Gaudin from Belga press agency, the two Falcon 7X aircraft of the Belgian Air Force belong to Abelag Aviation (now called Luxaviation). The first one is registered OO-LUM (for LUchtMacht) and the second OO-FAE (for Force AErienne).
We still need OO-LUW (LUftWaffe :lol: :mrgreen:

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According to the 15th Wing Air Transport on facebook, the planes will not get an 'air force' livery. Just a few emblems will be added. :roll:

No money for a bit of paint? Air Force/Government jets with a generic corporate livery? Very unprofessional... #onlyinbelgium

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30 Apr 2020, 14:03
According to the 15th Wing Air Transport on facebook, the planes will not get an 'air force' livery. Just a few emblems will be added. :roll:

No money for a bit of paint? Air Force/Government jets with a generic corporate livery? Very unprofessional... #onlyinbelgium
Was expected since they were delivered with the livery "as is" with the immatriculation painted on the fuselage iso having a temporary decal. But who knows, maybe they'll get a new livery in a couple of years when the paint needs to be refreshed (current livery was painted in 2016).

Btw, OO-LUM is a 14 year old bird, build in 2004 with C/N 4 as it's serial number.

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It looks more like the aircraft was intended for Macron (or Sarkozy in 2007) with the French flag on its tail...
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Going to be funny. A BAF aircraft with the French/Dutch colors on it :lol:

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