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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by SkyTourist » 12 Mar 2018, 19:48

sn26567 wrote:
12 Mar 2018, 19:20
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12 Mar 2018, 19:16
The newly established connection Tegel-New York disappears.
That was known since the beginning: LH took over the route after the Air Berlin bankruptcy only because Eurowings didn't have the necessary aircraft. At the end of 2018, Eurowings can take over again.
The Areobuzz article suggests that there will be no direct flight TXL-JFK any longer, but that Berlin passengers will have to travel through one of the hubs FRA-MUC-DUS ("Während die Kranich-Airline in Düsseldorf ihr Langstreckenangebot durch Flüge mit Eurowings und Brussels Airlines substituiert, kommt es für Berlin richtig dicke: Dort zieht die Airline die erst im November eröffnete Verbindung von Tegel nach New York wieder ab und streicht sie ersatzlos. Berliner Passagiere, die in die Vereinigten Staaten fliegen wollen, können also nur noch wieder Direktflüge buchen und müssen auf einem Drehkreuz-Flughafen umsteigen.")

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 13 Mar 2018, 21:31

Lufthansa to close its Dusseldorf base in winter 2018/19 due to the closure of its Newark route, affecting 400 flight attendants. But Eurowings is there to take over!
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Ansett » 13 Mar 2018, 23:51

and with less favourable work and pay conditions for crews.

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Yuqu12 » 14 Mar 2018, 09:16

I read yesterday on HLN.be that the planes in new livery of LH will have to be repainted as the blue is too dark in bad weather conditions and thus a violation of certain rules.

Link to article: https://www.hln.be/nieuws/buitenland/lu ... ~a022f548/

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Passenger » 14 Mar 2018, 22:17

15th March 2018 is results day...

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 15 Mar 2018, 09:25

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14 Mar 2018, 22:17
15th March 2018 is results day...
http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufth ... 6-billion/
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by DannyVDB » 17 Mar 2018, 14:18

Some interesting reading, but also some emerging questions:

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... /2017.html

I didn't read the whole annual report, might do that at a later stage.

Here are some questions I have:

1) In the annual report, p21 is an interesting table on the fleet, end 2017 and the planned additions between 2018 and 2025. Most of these are known, but what stroke me is the addition of 6 A330. In my opinion this does not refer to the 7 A330 that will replace other A330 at SN. Anyone who knows what those could be (I was not aware they have some on order - but they speak about additions, not orders)

2) In the powerpoint presentation there is an interesting slide, p25 with the capacity growth for 2018 per region. I understand them all, except Asia/Middle East. It states 23% growth for the P2P ailrines. What could this be? As far as I know EW, nor SN plan to start/extend operations there ...

3) On page 18 of the presentation BRU is said to have 52 planes in summer 2018, the same as in summer 2017. I thought there were less planes last summer and certainly there will be an extension with more A320 this year anyway, no? What are these 52: 22 A319, 16 A320, 10 A330, 5 Sukhoi (although I think they do not count them - not sure), but together that would make 53 - or do they count the 2 A330 that will arrive in 03 and 04/18 (+ 2 A330 if you also count the two to be delivered in 9 and 10/18) from CX? The 2 A340 and the 1 A330 that will fly from DUS are in the figures of DUS, not BRU ...

Any clarification/insight is welcome

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 17 Mar 2018, 15:54

DannyVDB wrote:
17 Mar 2018, 14:18
Some interesting reading, but also some emerging questions:

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... /2017.html
....
3) On page 18 of the presentation BRU is said to have 52 planes in summer 2018, the same as in summer 2017.
....
Interesting reading indeed, thank you.

A picture is worth a thousand words...
Pages from LH-APC-2018-charts-Spohr-Svensson.jpg
A second tail appears next to the EW one.
I suppose that mistake will be corrected for next year presentation.


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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by DannyVDB » 17 Mar 2018, 16:46

I don't see the problem. They speak about the EW group and SN is part of that, so therefore the two tails ...

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 17 Mar 2018, 21:04

DannyVDB wrote:
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I don't see the problem. They speak about the EW group and SN is part of that, so therefore the two tails ...

I am sure there is no problem indeed, for LH Group that is.

But this slide refers to Eurowings Airline, not group in with SN is included, and puts BRU as part of the Eurowings "Home Market".

(1) CS said he wants to develop the AFI market, and Slide N°25 puts it at +13% for P2P.
(2) SN is the Centre of Excellence for Long Haul.
(3) There will be no additional aircraft at BRU.
>>> (1) + (2) + (3) = Reduction of the SN Short Haul fleet ? To make room for all these additional A330 that will be used to develop the AFI market from BRU, while keeping the total BRU at 52 ?

Pages from LH Presentation.jpg

Or could it be that it is DUS that will bring that AFI growth?
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Passenger » 17 Mar 2018, 21:17

"Notice to all Belgians: what you have sold, isn't yours anymore".

Tweet from Guillaume Van der Stighelen, Belgium's senior advertising specialist, on 5th Febr 2018.

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Ansett » 17 Mar 2018, 23:30

Absolutely true !!!
Of course, the former Belgian shareholders take the blame, imho, for not having wanted to add additional money on the table or were not prepared to let LH (Mayerhuber) buy all of SN right at the beginning, because (according to my interpretation), they expected a better return on investment, if they waited a few years, since they were convinced LH would turn SN fairly quickly into a very profitable airline like with LX, and consequently they did not want to sell right away, but their hopes for a higher return did not concretize. On the contrary.
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(1) CS said he wants to develop the AFI market, and Slide N°25 puts it at +13% for P2P.
(2) SN is the Centre of Excellence for Long Haul.
(3) There will be no additional aircraft at BRU.
If CS wants to develop the AFI market (point 1) without additional aircraft in BRU (point 3), for me it means that all other SN long-haul flights from BRU will go (including BOM). The flights to Africa from North America will be fed by UA and AC. Otherwise, I don't see how CS can develop AFI without additional aircraft.
CS wants us to fly via FRA or MUC. I will take the Thalys to Schiphol or the TGV to Roissy.

As to the Centre of Excellence for Long Haul in Brussels, like Saint-Thomas, I will believe it when I see it.
And if it comes to Brussels, I bet it will be run by Germans.

CS must be laughing all the way to the bank because of "our" (you know who I mean) naivity (or is it stupidity).

An English saying goes : there is no use crying over spilled milk. Really ?

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 19 Mar 2018, 23:43

Lufthansa will operate three of its four daily Verona–Frankfurt routes with an E195 from Air Dolomiti from 25 March 2018. Lufthansa will codeshare on this route.
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 26 Mar 2018, 22:10

Lufthansa Cargo has reduced the size of its MD11F fleet to 12 aircraft in 2017, by selling two aircraft. One MD11F was reactivated in November 2017 due to rise in demand at end of the year, so the carrier operated a total of 17 cargo aircraft including five B777Fs at 2017 end.
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 26 Mar 2018, 22:11

Lufthansa and Austrian Airlines are restarting flights to Erbil from this 26 March 2018 after restrictions on airspace were lifted.
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 03 Apr 2018, 18:49

Lufthansa Group is looking to add more capacity into China – including Chengdu, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Shenyang -, Japan, Southeast Asia and India, as demand for air travel grows in the region.

Competition, competition, ....
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 07 May 2018, 17:27

Lufthansa to start A330-300 service from Frankfurt to Lisbon, Moscow Domodedovo and Rome between May and July 2018.
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 18 May 2018, 11:29

Lufthansa won a partial victory before the EU Court in a dispute with the competition watchdogs regarding the acquisition of SWISS.

The EU Commission must now consider whether some of the conditions under which the deal was approved in 2005 could be removed, ruled Luxembourg judges.
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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by Passenger » 21 Jun 2018, 22:56

Interview Business Insider with Carsten Spohr:

"The CEO of Europe’s largest airline reveals how his company is thriving in the world’s toughest airline market"
https://www.businessinsider.nl/lufthans ... ny-2018-6/

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Re: Lufthansa in 2018

Post by convair » 21 Jun 2018, 23:27

Passenger wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 22:56
Interview Business Insider with Carsten Spohr:

"The CEO of Europe’s largest airline reveals how his company is thriving in the world’s toughest airline market"
https://www.businessinsider.nl/lufthans ... ny-2018-6/
"On the other hand Eurowings and Brussels Airlines are point-to-point low cost carriers that operate without a hub network."

You can't really be clearer than that!

So, if there was still any doubt, and despite what the new SN CEO said a few weeks ago, the point-to-point low cost (and of course low service) future of SN is confirmed by the big boss himself!

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