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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 01 Nov 2018, 19:55

Where did you find the Ryanair statement ?

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 01 Nov 2018, 20:38

luchtzak wrote:
01 Nov 2018, 19:55
Where did you find the Ryanair statement ?
Dutch state tv NOS:
https://nos.nl/artikel/2257439-ryanair- ... chter.html

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by flightlover » 01 Nov 2018, 23:54

KriVa wrote:
01 Nov 2018, 16:36
A rather strange reasoning behind the verdict indeed.
“All engines out” is also a procedure described in the manual of every aircraft, though I’d doubt you’ll find any pilot describes it as a part of normal flight operations.
Not in flight, no. :)

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Poiu » 02 Nov 2018, 05:09

737MAX wrote:
25 Oct 2018, 19:08
Does that mean they’ll pay their taxes in Belgium, instead of Ireland? :?
Social security is paid in Belgium, income tax as per double taxation agreement between Ireland and the country of residence of the employee.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by 737MAX » 02 Nov 2018, 10:55

Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 05:09
737MAX wrote:
25 Oct 2018, 19:08
Does that mean they’ll pay their taxes in Belgium, instead of Ireland? :?
Social security is paid in Belgium, income tax as per double taxation agreement between Ireland and the country of residence of the employee.
That's how it works now, yes.Would a Ryanair employee be able to benefit from the belgian labour law while still paying his taxes in Ireland (other than social security)?

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sean1982 » 02 Nov 2018, 12:59

737MAX wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 10:55
Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 05:09
737MAX wrote:
25 Oct 2018, 19:08
Does that mean they’ll pay their taxes in Belgium, instead of Ireland? :?
Social security is paid in Belgium, income tax as per double taxation agreement between Ireland and the country of residence of the employee.
That's how it works now, yes.Would a Ryanair employee be able to benefit from the belgian labour law while still paying his taxes in Ireland (other than social security)?
I would expect so, seeing that the company is Irish and the employee will not wotk for a Belgian branch (as long as the double taxation agreement exists between the two countries).

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Poiu » 02 Nov 2018, 14:35

737MAX wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 10:55
Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 05:09
737MAX wrote:
25 Oct 2018, 19:08
Does that mean they’ll pay their taxes in Belgium, instead of Ireland? :?
Social security is paid in Belgium, income tax as per double taxation agreement between Ireland and the country of residence of the employee.
That's how it works now, yes.Would a Ryanair employee be able to benefit from the belgian labour law while still paying his taxes in Ireland (other than social security)?
You are mixing things up!
Labor law has nothing to do with double taxation agreements.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by 737MAX » 02 Nov 2018, 16:52

Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 14:35
737MAX wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 10:55
Poiu wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 05:09


Social security is paid in Belgium, income tax as per double taxation agreement between Ireland and the country of residence of the employee.
That's how it works now, yes.Would a Ryanair employee be able to benefit from the belgian labour law while still paying his taxes in Ireland (other than social security)?
You are mixing things up!
Labor law has nothing to do with double taxation agreements.
Right. How long it’s going to last is another question...

Someone who’s based full time in Belgium, and who is entitled to the belgian labour laws + social security should pay his taxes in Belgium. Not abroad.

But that’s a personal opinion and... a big problem/nonsense of the E.U. !

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Poiu » 02 Nov 2018, 21:25

737MAX wrote:
02 Nov 2018, 16:52

Someone who’s based full time in Belgium, and who is entitled to the belgian labour laws + social security should pay his taxes in Belgium. Not abroad.

But that’s a personal opinion and... a big problem/nonsense of the E.U. !
Nothing to do with the EU, double taxation agreements exist worldwide, to protect individuals from being taxed twice. Some people loose, other win, but that has nothing to do with Ryanair.
It sounds as you have a personal problem with the high Belgian taxes. Making the rich man poorer won’t make the poor man richer though, but this is way off topic.
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by 737MAX » 03 Nov 2018, 08:36

I was simply asking questions about how the salary/tax system works for Ryanair employees. Nothing more, nothing less. But apparently everything needs to be turned into something personal, here.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Poiu » 03 Nov 2018, 09:33

737MAX wrote:
03 Nov 2018, 08:36
I was simply asking questions about how the salary/tax system works for Ryanair employees. Nothing more, nothing less. But apparently everything needs to be turned into something personal, here.
You got a clear answer to your question, but clearly didn’t like the answer, all the rest is off topic.
(I am sure many of your colleagues can explain you the details of the international agreements they used whilst operating out of Morocco.)

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 08 Nov 2018, 10:54

euroflyer wrote:
01 Nov 2018, 13:36
sn26567 wrote:
23 Oct 2018, 22:20
luchtzak wrote:
23 Oct 2018, 21:53
The Ryanair crew members that staged the sleeping-on-the-floor picture have been summoned to Dublin.
Will they also sleep on the floor in Dublin Airport or did the airline book them in a decent hotel?
One way ticket I guess ...
BBC: "...Ryanair sacks staff who 'spent night on airport floor' in Spain..."

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryan ... ort-floor/

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 08 Nov 2018, 22:16

Ryanair and its CEO Michael O’Leary were sued in New York by a shareholder that said the airline defrauded investors and inflated its share price by overstating its ability to manage labour relations and keep costs down.
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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by Passenger » 09 Nov 2018, 08:08

CAPA:"Italian Competition Authority opens non-compliance proceedings against Ryanair, Wizz Air"
Italian Competition Authority (ICA) opened (07-Nov-2018) proceedings against Ryanair and Wizz Air for non-compliance with precautionary measures issued on 31-Oct-2018. As previously reported by CAPA, the ICA adopted measures requesting suspension of new cabin bag policies of the carriers which entered into effect on 01-Nov-2018. The policies allow passengers to carry for free one small personal bag able to fit under aircraft seats, whereas an extra charge would be applied to larger cabin baggage. The ICA argued the each policy "misleads consumers" and "distorts comparison with prices applied by other companies". The authority may impose fines of up to EUR5 million for each carrier during proceeding as well as ordering suspension of business activity in Italy for a period not exceeding 30 days.

Source:
https://centreforaviation.com/news/ital ... air-857098
AGCM Italy:
http://en.agcm.it/en/media/press-releas ... 20measures
and
http://www.agcm.it/media/comunicati-sta ... Wizz%20Air

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by DIBO » 09 Nov 2018, 11:24

French authorities impound Ryanair aircraft at Bordeaux-Mérignac, until the reimbursement of illegal subsidies received by Ryanair

https://www.hln.be/geld/economie/franse ... ~afe629ca/ (dutch only)

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 09 Nov 2018, 13:20

DIBO wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:24
French authorities impound Ryanair aircraft at Bordeaux-Mérignac, until the reimbursement of illegal subsidies received by Ryanair

https://www.hln.be/geld/economie/franse ... ~afe629ca/ (dutch only)
In English: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryan ... -aid-paid/

Related aircraft: EI-EBG

With a wink, the DGAC explained that the delayed Ryanair passengers are entitled to a compensation of €300 according to Regulation (EC) No 261/2004.

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Re: Ryanair in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 09 Nov 2018, 22:21

Irish newspapers ; They payed ~€525000...
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