Brussels Airlines in 2018

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by convair » 25 Nov 2018, 18:16

Stij wrote:
25 Nov 2018, 09:20
Inquirer wrote:
23 Nov 2018, 18:02
One can imagine Lufthansa is not too keen to see internal competition from them on the network side, hence them being oriented towards complementary markets only, quite clearly.
Why? I don’t think LH cares wether you fly via MUC or FRA as long as you fly them!

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You're right Stij, they shouldn't. However, there is often competition within groups in all kinds of business. In the LH group Board, some members oversee parts of the group's activities, like EW, and there probably is some internal power struggle, if only for the group CEO position when it will be open.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Boeing767copilot » 07 Dec 2018, 11:37

Brussels Airlines behält Deutschland-Team in Berlin


http://www.airliners.de/brussels-airlin ... rlin/47988

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 07 Dec 2018, 12:30

Boeing767copilot wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 11:37
Brussels Airlines behält Deutschland-Team in Berlin

http://www.airliners.de/brussels-airlin ... rlin/47988
In short: Brussels Airlines keeps its own sales team in Berlin. No longer with a country manager, but with a Business Development Manager working in the Lufthansa offices in Berlin.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 07 Dec 2018, 12:52

sn26567 wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 12:30
Boeing767copilot wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 11:37
Brussels Airlines behält Deutschland-Team in Berlin

http://www.airliners.de/brussels-airlin ... rlin/47988
In short: Brussels Airlines keeps its own sales team in Berlin. No longer with a country manager, but with a Business Development Manager working in the Lufthansa offices in Berlin.
Does this mean that integration is pushed, without necessarily achieving pure absorption? Thx...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 07 Dec 2018, 14:08

nordikcam wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 12:52
sn26567 wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 12:30
Boeing767copilot wrote:
07 Dec 2018, 11:37
Brussels Airlines behält Deutschland-Team in Berlin

http://www.airliners.de/brussels-airlin ... rlin/47988
In short: Brussels Airlines keeps its own sales team in Berlin. No longer with a country manager, but with a Business Development Manager working in the Lufthansa offices in Berlin.
Does this mean that integration is pushed, without necessarily achieving pure absorption? Thx...
The article says clearly that the integration will proceed further in 2019, but the present decision shows also that Brussels Airlines keeps some sort of freedom of action.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Inquirer » 07 Dec 2018, 16:35

My feeling is Lufthansa understands B.air's African routes are a completely different market than anything eurowings (or in fact Lufthansa proper) covers, hence it needs to be covered with a different product and that can only be done via a different subbrand .
1 company, active under different brands depending the market: nothing shocking, happens all the time, in all sectors of our economy.
Exactly as predicted.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Matt » 10 Dec 2018, 09:20

Just wondering if any of you guys know why I cant book Brussels-Johannesburg anymore on Brusselsairlines.com .
Okay, these are code share flights from Frankfurt (SN7206 with LH 572) but buying the tickets from brusselsairlines was generally ( a lot ) cheaper than buying it from LH.com directly. I did this many times since the economy tickets were usually economy-K tickets ( cheapest bunch )

Did they end the code share for this route ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Bel33 » 10 Dec 2018, 10:26

Try again... I make a simulation and it seems fully operational

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Matt » 10 Dec 2018, 11:00

Bel33 wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 10:26
Try again... I make a simulation and it seems fully operational
I get the error:
Wij hebben geen vluchten die voldoen aan je zoekcriteria. Probeer opnieuw.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Sai » 10 Dec 2018, 16:52

Brussels Airlines one of the most polluting airlines worldwide...
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/m ... ~a1f4ef48/

Maybe the "new" aircraft will change their ranking a bit...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 10 Dec 2018, 16:55

Sai wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 16:52
Brussels Airlines one of the most polluting airlines worldwide...
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/m ... ~a1f4ef48/

Maybe the "new" aircraft will change their ranking a bit...
Also read it in Le Soir...

Lufthansa AG / Eurowings Group don't even mind of Brussels Airlines, seems for me too much logical...
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by shockcooling » 10 Dec 2018, 17:35

I just wonder which figures they use, if they took them from 2012 for example, they were still flying avros half empty. But things are going the good direction, so I fail to understand their calculations... It would seem less logical, but Swiss have less seats in their 330s and are flying further away, aren't they more polluting than the shorter flights of SN?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 10 Dec 2018, 17:42

TLspotting wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 16:55
Sai wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 16:52
Brussels Airlines one of the most polluting airlines worldwide...
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/m ... ~a1f4ef48/
Maybe the "new" aircraft will change their ranking a bit...
Lufthansa AG / Eurowings Group don't even mind of Brussels Airlines, seems for me too much logical...
Sooooo predictable: "don't even mind..."

Fact check:

01. TUI Airways
02. LATAM Airlines Brasil
03. China West Air
...
66. Lufthansa
...
81. Austrian Airlines
...
84. Brussels Airlines
...
89. Swiss
...
99. Lufthansa Regional
...
109. Swiss Global Air Lines
...
123. Kenya Airways
124. Egyptair Express
125. South African Airlink

https://www.atmosfair.de/wp-content/upl ... ischsw.pdf

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Poiu » 10 Dec 2018, 19:56

shockcooling wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 17:35
I fail to understand their calculations... It would seem less logical, but Swiss have less seats in their 330s and are flying further away, aren't they more polluting than the shorter flights of SN?
That’s we Swiss are behind SN...
On a side note, surprisingly or maybe unsurprisingly, there is no mention of the article on the homepage of this site.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 10 Dec 2018, 20:41

Poiu wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 19:56
shockcooling wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 17:35
I fail to understand their calculations... It would seem less logical, but Swiss have less seats in their 330s and are flying further away, aren't they more polluting than the shorter flights of SN?
That’s we Swiss are behind SN...
On a side note, surprisingly or maybe unsurprisingly, there is no mention of the article on the homepage of this site.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 10 Dec 2018, 22:46

Poiu wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 19:56
On a side note, surprisingly or maybe unsurprisingly, there is no mention of the article on the homepage of this site.
You ought to ask earlier: https://www.aviation24.be/miscellaneous ... -airlines/
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 11 Dec 2018, 15:44

OO-SFY finally came back home.
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