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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Jaguar » 11 Jun 2018, 13:26

Yes 1 single flight but one that requires an off day afterwards for the crew as do many of the long saturday charter flights, in times where cockpit AND Cabincrew is being called in their off days , every bit helps...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by RoMax » 11 Jun 2018, 18:39

Jaguar wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 13:26
Yes 1 single flight but one that requires an off day afterwards for the crew as do many of the long saturday charter flights, in times where cockpit AND Cabincrew is being called in their off days , every bit helps...
Still the impact of that 1 flight is very limited on your overall crew utilization. And anyway if you have to cancel flights because of a lack of crew, you cancel flights where you have an alternative for the customer, not the single frequency on a new route which is sold completely to a partner company. Like with the strike days, exactly those where the type of flights that were effectively operated with those crew that wanted to work because for them it was by far the most difficult to arrange an alternative.

Anyway it says enough that Thomas Cook offers an alternative holiday in Egypt (SN does fly to Marsa Alam and Hurghada) or to get their money back instead of chartering ather aircraft or even rebook on TUI or reroute via foreign partners (no not 100% of the flights for Thomas Cook are operated by SN so not that wouldn't be absolutely impossible-though probably expensive in high season on such short notice).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by KriVa » 11 Jun 2018, 19:21

If the reason for the cancellations really was crew shortage, why not subcharter VLM planes, like they’ve done more than a few times in the past, to perform the flights?
Something tells me they really are concerned...
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by RoMax » 11 Jun 2018, 19:30

KriVa wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 19:21
If the reason for the cancellations really was crew shortage, why not subcharter VLM planes, like they’ve done more than a few times in the past, to perform the flights?
Something tells me they really are concerned...
Exactly, doesn't have to be VLM per se, but as I said in the last part of my post it says a lot that Thomas Cook is not arranging alternative transport or not even talking about trying to find it to save at least part of the season.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by rwandan-flyer » 11 Jun 2018, 20:46

With all respect Ansett, but you start to sound like a broken record.
LH saved BruAir from bankruptcy!! The whole EW integration is about cost cutting, in order to keep a base in BRU viable, nothing else. LH is not killing BruAir at all, the name will go, but employment will stay, probably on lower T&Cs though.
Besides that, passengers don’t care about the colour of the aircraft, the care about the price.
A couple of frustrated aviation enthusiasts won’t change LH’s plans. You may not like it but it is what it is and you will have to live with it.
Agree

Remind me, when KLM started to serve Kigali, in 2011. They never served Rwanda, like Sabena or Air France. They are now carrying more passengers than Brussels Airlines ( 145 000 in 2016, while 57 000 for Brussels Airlines). In only, 2 years, they increased their service, from 5 flights a week to daily service. The A330-300 is often deployed (292 seats).

In term of seat avaibility, SN is now 3rd, behind, KLM (daily A330-200 / 300), Qatar Airways (daily B787), but just ahead Turkish Airlines (daily B737), and i exclude Ethiopian (2 daily B737) & Kenya Airways (3-4 daily ERJ-190 / B737).

I think it's almost finish, the period, where people used to fly with Air France or Sabena (now Brussels Airlines) to Africa. There are new players, including Turkish Airlines, Emirates or Qatar Airways, even Air Malta is eyeing to add flights to Sub-Saharan Africa. Some others players have added more destinations, such as Ethiopian and Royal Air Maroc. Even British Airways has decided to close some major destinations, in Africa, such as Khartoum, Addis Ababa, Dar Es Salaam, Lusaka or Entebbe.

So if one day, LX with their A320Neo / LR, Lufthansa or Eurowings decide to serve Kigali, i won't be suprised.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 11 Jun 2018, 22:40

Meeting between board and Unions is still in progress ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 11 Jun 2018, 23:17

According to vrtnws, an initial agreement has been reached, which is now to get support from staff.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/06/11 ... ndelingen/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Conti764 » 12 Jun 2018, 01:28

jan_olieslagers wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 23:17
According to vrtnws, an initial agreement has been reached, which is now to get support from staff.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/06/11 ... ndelingen/
Good thing. If only the German bosses were less stuborn BEFORE the strike, it could have been avoided.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 12 Jun 2018, 07:57

Conti764 wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 01:28
Good thing. If only the German bosses were less stuborn BEFORE the strike, it could have been avoided.
The strike from last month could also been avoided when the trade unions would have accepted that an airline with a small profit can't spend most of that profit to one select group of employees. And certainly not when that select group is already the most expensive one. The inititial demands from the unions would have resulted in a 25% increase of their costs. Did they really think that management/owners would give them that?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by flightlover » 12 Jun 2018, 08:38

Passenger wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 07:57
Conti764 wrote:
12 Jun 2018, 01:28
Good thing. If only the German bosses were less stuborn BEFORE the strike, it could have been avoided.
The strike from last month could also been avoided when the trade unions would have accepted that an airline with a small profit can't spend most of that profit to one select group of employees. And certainly not when that select group is already the most expensive one. The inititial demands from the unions would have resulted in a 25% increase of their costs. Did they really think that management/owners would give them that?
The most paid and thus most expensive group of employees are those managers (most of the time). And they don't mind taking a raise when the result goes south. On the other hand they are always urging their employees to work harder, longer and more flexible for less pay. Hell, when you ask what effort they will be doing themselves to lower their cost to the company when they announce another round of cost-cutting, they could kill you with their eyes.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 13 Jun 2018, 10:32

Today at 12h00 local (10h00 UTC): dep SN-2018 Brussels-Moscow SVO (A320-200 OO-SNA):

Belgian Red Devils to the World Cup.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-sna

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 13 Jun 2018, 10:57

Passenger wrote:
13 Jun 2018, 10:32
Today at 12h00 local (10h00 UTC): dep SN-2018 Brussels-Moscow SVO (A320-200 OO-SNA):

Belgian Red Devils to the World Cup.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-sna
http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufth ... to-russia/

With a Red Devils safety video :D
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 13 Jun 2018, 12:40

and with all this they made a new safety instructions video starring the red devils

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by luchtzak » 13 Jun 2018, 12:56

A tweet from André in his favourite newspaper HLN: https://www.hln.be/sport/voetbal/buiten ... ~a6278fde/
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by nordikcam » 13 Jun 2018, 12:57

Great ! Nice aircraft, nice fans,nice safety instructions...but "en même temps" they cancel a lot of flights : Billund, Hannover, Toulouse, Rome, Stockholm ( all flights ) Birmingham, Nantes...how do they solve the problem ? Disastrous image !

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by CTBke » 13 Jun 2018, 14:02

nordikcam wrote:
13 Jun 2018, 12:57
Great ! Nice aircraft, nice fans,nice safety instructions...but "en même temps" they cancel a lot of flights : Billund, Hannover, Toulouse, Rome, Stockholm ( all flights ) Birmingham, Nantes...how do they solve the problem ? Disastrous image !
Thanks to Cityjet's superjet they need to shuffle and recover as much flights possible
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by Passenger » 19 Jun 2018, 10:51

The two leading publications in the Flemish travel trade recently eacht have published an article on Carsten Spohr, Lufthansa, Eurowings and Brussels Airlines.

Travel 360°:
https://travel360benelux.com//nl/jan-pe ... solidatie/

Travel Magazine:
https://travel-magazine.be/carsten-spoh ... ere-groei/

free translation:
https://translate.google.com/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 19 Jun 2018, 12:02

Passenger wrote:
19 Jun 2018, 10:51
The two leading publications in the Flemish travel trade recently eacht have published an article on Carsten Spohr, Lufthansa, Eurowings and Brussels Airlines.

Travel 360°:
https://travel360benelux.com//nl/jan-pe ... solidatie/

Travel Magazine:
https://travel-magazine.be/carsten-spoh ... ere-groei/
The first one is a translation of the interview by Süddeutsche Zeitung that I mentioned in the thread on the potential takeover of Norwegian. The second one is the interview by Luk De Wilde (VRT) and Raphaël Meulders (La Libre Belgique) mentioned several times above and on our main page.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2018

Post by increato » 21 Jun 2018, 22:12

Given the fact that the C-series is now becoming an Airbus, I would not be surprised to see this one appearing in the fleet of SN sooner or later. This aircraft can be perfectly used on the route to Bromma.

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